Center Stand for XR650L and XT225

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Cigar Mike, Dec 29, 2009.

  1. onroule

    onroule n00b

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    Hello all,

    My name is Michel. I am from Montréal, Canada. I have been watching this forum for sometime and finding very good info on the XT225 but I just register recently.

    I need a bit of help. In 5 weeks I am going for a 3 to 4 weeks trip up north, mostly on forest road, and I am desperately looking for a center stand. I have found this thread and realized that Cigar Mike is taking a break from making center stand and concentrate more on his familly and I fully understand this. May be I am not in the right forum to ask this and if it is the case please let me know but if any of you or someone that you know has a new or used one for sale, please contact me.

    Many thanks, ride safe.
    Michel
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  2. dcparks

    dcparks Been here awhile

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    Despite Mikes own review of his stand ("Listen up everyone. Cigar Mike's Centerstands suck! Don't try to order one, please. Mike") i want one. No warrenty asked or expected - anyone out there have one i can buy? PM if so,

    cheers,

    Chris
  3. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    Darn, I may make a few this year. Same price, same warranty. Since money does not motivate me to do this I am unreliable. Things change and grandkids grow up. I am uncertain how many I will make.

    I thought there would be other options by now. One manufacturer said he was going to make them for the same models and distribute them worldwide. That was two years ago.

    Mike
  4. tuna101

    tuna101 Been here awhile

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    Put me on your list if you decide to make some.:clap
  5. frontiercat

    frontiercat on the wheel

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    I still would love to have a center stand for my TE630, too...:lol3
  6. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    I have decided to officially stop making center stands. I have not made any for over a year. I still receive a lot of inquires for the stands. Since I am having too much fun in full retirement and don't miss breathing smoke and dust. I know I won't start again.

    I have contacted a DS/Adventure accessory manufacturer and they are interested in making the stands if the numbers work out for them. I hope that it works out so that the stands will be available for those that want them.

    This has always been a hobby for me and a fun way to fill time. I now find that it is a chore to find time to build stands. It makes sense to stop and let someone else provide the stands. It has really been fun making the stands for fellow inmates and riders. There is great satisfaction when my efforts have been appreciated. I appreciate the patience early customers showed me when the stands were not right and for allowing me to make it right for them.

    From my conversation with the manufacturer it appears he is interested in allowing me to continue doing designs for new models. I would enjoy that and it would also allow me to complete the stands for the TA and DRZ.

    Thank you ADV for providing a thread where I could offer the stands and receive feed back and suggestions for new models.

    Thanks,

    Mike
  7. thebigman

    thebigman bout a dollar 3.98

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    Mike ,

    Thanks for all that you have done for the motorcycle community :deal


    With That said ,

    Have fun moving on to the next chapter in you and your family's life .

    Have fun man , :clap:clap
  8. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    Thank you, that is very nice of you. It was fun and I am glad I was able to do it. The really fun part was dealing/talking with fellow riders from around the world.
  9. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    I got a XR650L stand over to the fabricator/distributor. Hopefully in a couple of weeks I will know if he will go into production. I will work on getting something for the XT225 and the TE610/630 models next.

    I think once I get all of the stands over to him I will play with the TA again and see if he will add that also. I may have to make some of them if he doesn't.
  10. wdeTA

    wdeTA TransAlp Adv

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    Hey Mike,

    If you get playing with the TA stand again, let me know, I had an idea for the fold down step on part that sorta worked, but I didn't really have the right material. BTW, mines been working fine with no issues other than scratching the swing arm a bit when I forget to wrap the step part back in place before taking the bike of the CS.
  11. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    The stand for the TA is so close, I would like to make it happen. The easy fix is to put the press down leg on the right side. I still have it on the right on Cathy's XT even though I changed it on later models. I would rather have it on the right than have no stand at all.
  12. furbo

    furbo Been here awhile

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    Mike,

    Any movement on the XR650L stands?

    Am stuck in Asscrackistan this summer, but will definitely be in market come Christmas as Ive just bought a new XRL..

    Thanks,
  13. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    It is the busy time of the year for the company and It sounds like they will not have the time to put into a new product until things slow down a bit.

    Cheers
  14. KilgoreTrout

    KilgoreTrout adventure flyfisher

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    Just lurking around and saw this:clap Heres hoping it happens
  15. Rhompin45

    Rhompin45 Rhompin45

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    Ugg I was just thinking about it being nice to have a center stand for the xr650 so I google searches it and this is all I found... Really? No one makes them? I completly under stand retirement and finally taking a break so I don't blame you at all. I guess I'll have to get creative and try to make my own.
  16. stnick

    stnick Adventurer

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    You have no idea how truly lucky you are that cigar mikes stands are no longer available. Ask yourself, why did he really stop mfg and why didnt someone pick up his design and carry fwd? Answer is it was hit or miss on which wheel it would raise! And a list of other reasons.
    Seems like 4 strokes. Com xronly etc or a real fabricator would see the money making opportunity and produce a valid product though.
    Good luck in your search and keep us updated.
    All the best,
    Nick
  17. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    I find this to be news to me. If any customer of mine had a problem with one of my stands I would fix it or refund their money. Customers could return their stands no questions asked if they changed their minds. I do not know what more I could do.

    The only issue I have ever had is concerning a resale of a stand to a second party. Even in that case I offered to correct or replace that stand even though I had no obligation to do so. I had stopped making stands at that time and did not have time to fix it in a timely manner.

    TCI has indicated they are interested in making many of the stands. I am working to help them fabricate the stands according to their schedule.
  18. LtsGoRyd

    LtsGoRyd Been here awhile

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    I heard nothing but good things about your stand man :D. I wanted one a while back, but found out about them a little too late...Some folks will just complain about anything because they are unhappy in life and try everything in their power and reach, to make everyone else feel just as crabby as they do. :krusty:toughI wonder if any of the people that made statements about not knowing which wheel was going to be lifted off the ground considered these 2 small, but important factors....Is the ground that you parked on level? If you have your bike loaded for adventure, where is the bulk of your gear located? :norton Just sayin....I think it was a great product. He put a lot of thought into the idea, used quality material, had a ton of time invested in it, and he wanted the people that invested in the stand to be completely satisfied with his product(my kinda fabricator/seller :D). I say good onya Mike. If it were me...I'd fold my stand up, hit the gas :evil, and roll on my man. You did a good thing :D joe
  19. gravityisnotmyfriend

    gravityisnotmyfriend Long timer

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    I had a CX500 with a factory centerstand. If the rear rack were overloaded, the front wheel would raise when you put it on the centerstand. I see that as a feature. Need to change the front tire? Put it on the stand and strap a couple of 25lb plates to the back.

    I have an XRL, so I've heard Cigar Mike's name mentioned many times. But, it's usually about people wishing they could get one of his stands. Never heard a bad thing about him or his product.
  20. Cigar Mike

    Cigar Mike Too Old and Too Slow

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    It looks like at least one company will start making a stand for the L. When I started making them I figured I would only be doing so for four or five years. Patents are a waste of time and I figured someone would start making a similar stand incorporating part of my design. I though that would be a good thing. I even sent a stand to one guy for free because he wanted to make an aluminum model. Nothing ever came of it. I found that the other manufacturers of DS products are good people and would not copy the design because they don't believe it is the right thing to do.

    My concern with the stand when I designed it was that first it would stay on the bike. It does not take much to hold the stand on the bottom of the bike or to be able to use the stand to lift a bike. But to survive hits on rocks when riding requires something very solid. If it could come off when riding it could enter the rear wheel and do lots of damage to bike and rider. Because it is on the bike I ride it is important to me that everyone be as safe as I want to be. Second that it functioned properly. I have to give credit to Honda for their consistent quality of their frame builds. There was only one bike that the frame tubes, where the stand attached, was off causing the stand to hit the swing arm. I had some stands that I built incorrectly that rubbed the swing arm. I corrected them and also improved my jig because of that.

    I really enjoyed being in the business when I needed it to fill the hours of my day. It kept me from being a couch potato the first few years of retirement. I really enjoyed the interaction with customers. Through some trial an error they helped to make the design better. The patience they showed when something was not correct and in allowing me to fix it was hard to believe. I was building stands for friends not strangers.

    I think the biggest problem with some one making the L stand has to do with how it attaches to the bike. It is out of the norm for center stands. Almost all aftermarket stands attach using the footpeg bolts. Since the L has a welded attachment of one peg this cannot be done. People just move on rather than be creative.

    I will ask for this thread to be nuked soon. I wanted it open to be able to update status of when someone picked up making stands.

    I appreciate the kind words. I hope that TCI finds it worthwhile to start making stands for the L.