Chevy Cruze "Clean Diesel"

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  1. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    If one knows how to properly use the torque band of a diesel, then yes: a manual can beat an automatic. If you still want to text and drive though... get the automatic:1drink
  2. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    The Eco isn't a diesel.
  3. Lornce

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    No, but there's mention of a six-speed manual diesel for '15 on the Cdn. website that was listed.
  4. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    Ah yes, footnote #3.
  5. garandman

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    Until it's time to sell it.....

    The funny thing is, this engine barely needs a transmission! I think it's turning around 2,000 rpms on the highway and has so much torque it hardly ever downshifts. I'd think a 2 speed automatic would work almost as well!.

    There is a five-door hatch made in Australia and in 2012 GM introduced a station wagon in Europe, available with both 1.7 and 2.0 diesels. But do we get the wagon? Non.

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  6. garandman

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  7. garandman

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    Ta Da. Since none of you FF's would buy one, we bought a second one. It's identical to #1 other than color.
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  8. Lornce

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    I'll buy a wagon when they import it to Canada with a 6spd manual. You guys buying the automatics are part of the problem.

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  9. Andrew

    Andrew Optimus Primer Super Moderator

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    Yup. I would love a 6sp in my VW Golf, but the 5sp is okay. Might move to a shorter 5th gear at some point...
  10. garandman

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    Subaru was beat up for making an automatic WRX for 2015: they have been manual-only for some time. Subaru claims to have one of the highest rates of manual transmissions purchased of any brand in the US but have not chosen to import their boxer diesel.

    They posted a slide showing the percentage of enthusiast cars purchased in the US with automatic transmissions.

    BMW 3 Series - 90%
    Camaro - 80%
    Mustang - 67%
    GTI - 60%
    Corvette - 58%
    Miata - 52%
    Fiat 500 - 50%
    Subaru BRZ - 30%

    They are sold everywhere else, but with US emissions control at least, the cost of certifying another drive train is substantially limiting choices. It is a common lament on Cruzetalk.

    Haven't heard anything about the wagon model in NA, but that's what we would buy if available.
  11. garandman

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    Added "Diesel" to the right rear. Yet to see one single Cruze TD on the road.

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  12. garandman

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  13. James Adams

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    It's interesting (but not surprising) to see where the numbers differ between the two: Jetta has better resale but higher maintenance and repairs. Though, in the end, the difference is roughly $2200 over five years, with the Jetta being the more expensive to own. Of course, these numbers may vary slightly per region since you have to put your zip code in...

    Like you, I haven't seen any Cruze diesels on the road, but I am seeing more and more M-B, BMW, and Porsche diesels.

    EDIT: Just for grins, I threw the Passat TDI into the mix (DSG w/sunroof, roughly the equivalent trim), and it's another $3k higher over 5 years, but all due to depreciation and higher taxes and insurance. Maintenance was ~$900 less than the Jetta. :scratch
  14. garandman

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    One of the problems with the Cruze TD is that the badging is so discrete: a single green wave with "2.0 TD" on it. It's about 3/4" high and 1.5" long.

    By contrast, the Holden CTD has "Diesel" badges on each front door as well as the rear trunk lid. So we bought some badges on eBay and we're representin'.

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  15. Commuter Boy

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    HPFP failures in the Jettas are about a grand more expensive than the smaller turbo's blowing up in the Passats :deal
  16. James Adams

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    :rofl

    Although, to be honest, the HPFP failures are the reason why I didn't consider a Golf or Jetta. Anecdotal evidence fortunately points to the turbo failures being a thing of the past as the part was updated sometime in the 2013? model year.

    I'm up at 33k miles on my 2014 Passat and no issues with anything yet.
  17. Wingfixer

    Wingfixer Watch this...

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    There has been a couple new Cruze threads popping up. It made me think of this one. How's the TDI doing?
  18. garandman

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    We have over 15,000 miles on #1 and about 8,000 miles on #2.

    #1 had an exhaust gas sensor fail, replaced on warranty.

    Started to see a few more on the road. We may buy a third one, it's between another Cruze TD, a Prius V, and a Cruze gasser.
  19. Wingfixer

    Wingfixer Watch this...

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    Cool, thanks for the update.
  20. A-Bone

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    Is the warranty impacted by the commercial use??