Children as Passengers - Seeking Advice/Feedback

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by remedy451, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    My first time on the back of a bike I couldn't have been more than 4 or 5, my Dad let me ride around the block on the back of the next door neighbor's Harley.

    No kids.....I know my Father was a huge fan of the school of hard knocks, so basically if he didn't think that I would instantly kill myself I could at least take a whirl at it.



    The rest, I don't have kids so I can't really relate.

    I know I used to have a neighbor that had 5 kids. So when I first moved in I had the bikes out in the driveway doing some maintenance and was nearly instantly surrounded. They wanted to ride so I made them get them Mother, she didn't have an issue with it so I ended up spending most of the afternoon wrapping kids up in spare gear and riding them around the neighborhood.

    Caveat being that it wasn't like I was going out on a main road, and I doubt that I got passed 25mph.

    Riding in traffic....I wouldn't with someone else's kids, its simply not worth the risk. With my own who knows, if they are old enough to ask to want to go along I would probably go along with it. I wouldn't be pushing them onto the bike.
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  2. Alton

    Alton Been here awhile

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    I have a distinct memory of Dad picking up myself, my brother, and my sister.. on Mom's Magna, on his way home from the bar.

    Brother and sister sat in front of him, and I sat behind. We all had 3/4 helmets (that were too big, and purchased used) and wore shorts, t-shirts, and tennis shoes. Dad didn't have a helmet. I was wearing his.

    Oddly enough, I've never once in my life felt unsafe around my dad.
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  3. hugemoth

    hugemoth Big Brother is watching you!

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    My daughter started riding with me before she was 1 while sitting on my wife's lap in the sidecar. By 3 she would ride in front of me on my Trail 90 on forest and desert trrails. She would also sit in front of me while riding my CX500 around town. She graduated to sitting on the back seat and taking multi-day tours by the time she was 5. She got her own Trail 90 at 10 and her motorcycle license the day she turned 16. When she was 16 we did some multi-day tours with her riding my CX500 and me on the Goldwing. Since then we've done many thousands of miles on and off road on dual sport bikes. She's now riding around Thailand on a rented bike.

    My philosophy is enjoying life entails a certain amount of risk. Be safe but don't put your kid in a bubble.

    BTW my daughter also soloed my ultralight at 16 and is an excellent pilot. She's now 24.
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  4. onewheeltwo

    onewheeltwo Been here awhile

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    Thanks, that's the solution I've been searching for for my son!

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    (now why didn't I think of that? :huh )
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  5. TonyBKK

    TonyBKK Secret Soi Rider

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    What a fantastic thread!

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    My son has been riding scooters since he was an infant and proper bikes since he was old enough to wear a kiddie helmet and we've been on quite a few tours already and he gets pissed if I go on a ride and don't take him along :evil
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    Here in Thailand scooters are the primary mode of transportation for most families and it's not unusual to see entire families packed onto a scooter.

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    He's been into bikes (literally) since he was a baby :1drink
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    Who knew that a sidecar can make a great baby crib?! :lol3

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    Did you know that bikes can run on Heineken?! :freaky

    I knew I was in trouble when at the age of 2 he could climb up my bikes and press the starter button :eek1
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    Really nice of Kawasaki to make stays that double as kiddie footpegs on the Versys :evil
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    Now he's five and we're planning an epic 6 week ~5000 mile ride from Minnesota to California this summer! Trip planning thread here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783288

    I'm already getting some flack from people who say he's too young for such a big trip. I know their concern is well intentioned, but I'm quite confident that with the trip broken into short days (never more than 300 miles/day) and with multi-day stops in the national parks along the way that we'll have a fantastic adventure together.

    We'll be doing it on a Goldwing GL 1500 like this with added armrests and a seatbelt so awake or asleep he'll be totally secure on the pillion seat-
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    Looking forward to an epic trip!

    Happy Trails!

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  6. orangebear

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  7. TonyBKK

    TonyBKK Secret Soi Rider

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  8. dwoodward

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    The US has lots of stupid laws, and there are lots of stupid people that need them.

    What came first is probably a discussion for the basement.
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  9. Rcrx21

    Rcrx21 06 KTM 950SM, 04 WR250F

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  10. Me and my monkee

    Me and my monkee Out makin' Monkee Maps

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    My daughter hit 2 major milestones today..kindergaten graduation and her first ride :clap
    I went with the Childs riding belt. Bought one on eBay over 2 years ago and have been waiting for this day!

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    Denim jacket, over ankle boots, kids helmet and dirt gloves. She wanted to wear shorts because she was hot!!

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    A quick 6 mile loop, stayed around 45-50 with one quick burst to 60 just to see how she liked it.
    She loved it, Was waving at pedestrians and cars the whole ride. Got back and said next time we had to ride for longer.

    I did have to make up some footrests for her as she could barely get tippytoes onto the pegs of only 2 of my bikes.
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    arge bolts through the bracket that holds the rubber bumpers for the saddlebags when they are installed. Couple of washers, nuts and some plastic hose zipped on. Very stable.

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  11. acesandeights

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    Hope that helps.
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  12. dwoodward

    dwoodward Long timer

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    Thought I would mention in this thread that just recently, Cycle Gear (no affiliation) has started carrying a line of kid's street gear. Reasonably priced, you could do helmet, jacket, pants, gloves, boots for about $220.

    http://www.cyclegear.com/eng/brands/bilt4kids

    :thumb
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  13. onewheeltwo

    onewheeltwo Been here awhile

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    I just got their catalog the other day, and was pretty shocked! I'll be going to the MD location sometime soon to get some gear for my 9 yo.

    Searching for "Bilt" comes up with a lot of not-so-favorable reviews. I'm thinking I'll ignore them, but I'll need to hold it in my hands first...

    On another note, he had his first ride a week ago, and loved it! Thanks again to the peg riser idea someone else posted earlier in this thread!
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  14. dwoodward

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    Yeah, it's poorly designed, one-time-use stuff, like early Joe Rocket. But it lets you start the kids out with good ideas about wearing riding gear.

    I've got a 17 year old now that's ATGATT and doesn't have to be told to do so- we started him that way, then he saw some good examples of why, and then a kid at school came up and said "wish I'd had that stuff when I crashed..."
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  15. WhatThaFrig

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    One of the guys I work with has a 5 year old daughter, same as I do. I asked him if he wanted to go ride after work and he said no because it was his week with little girl. I said put her on the bike and bring her. I was a passenger on my dads bikes when I was 4-5. He asked if I'd ride with my daughter and I said hell no, my dad was an idiot! :lol3
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  16. WhatThaFrig

    WhatThaFrig Been here awhile

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    That's pretty cool. My little girl want to ride. I'm gonna have to check that out.How comfortable was it to wear?
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  17. Falconx84

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    Sorry, but the whole "riding belt" just seems like a bad idea. I'd hate to take a tumble and wind up landing on my daughter
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  18. Adventure Trio

    Adventure Trio Wandering

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    It's pretty comfortable. We used one from age 5 until 8 1/2. He got big enough that I had to make extensions for the straps and now at age 10 he uses a buddy belt. I had mixed feelings about having the kid strapped to me as well but the whole idea of being out on a bike is what it is.....risk management.

    -Terry
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  19. ChadHahn

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    I've driven with my five year old daughter a few times. The first time was home from school. We live a little less than a mile from her school and I took a back way with out any traffic to see how she'd like it. She was good with it so the next time we went on a busy road about two mile to Dairy Queen.

    She is tall for her age but still it is hard to find her riding clothes. She has a full face helmet that she wears but before we do more riding I'm going to find her some better clothes.

    Chad

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  20. Me and my monkee

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    We will have to agree to disagree on this point.
    I am far more likely to have to engage in some aggressive maneuvers to avoid an obstacle or other driver, than I am likely to actually go down. Knowing that she is not going to lose grip and fall is more comforting than the slim chance that I myself might injure her' in the slim chance that we do go down.
    Not to mention the falling asleep issue that has already been brought up in this thread.
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