China or bust...

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by beemer boy, Apr 18, 2007.

  1. beemer boy

    beemer boy Oh no, he's gone Asian

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    Time to see..... China !!! Always wanted to see some of the wonders of China but wanted to do it my usual way, sitting on a motorcycle. It is extremely difficult to bring a foreign bike into China . So my solution was to buy a second hand bike that was from China, complete with Chinese plates.
    It was bought in Laos by a friend of mine, so it was purchased sight unseen to me. Then went to Vientiane to pick it up. Was a bit rougher than I expected since the bike is less than a year old. Did a ferry trip back to Chiang Mai with the bike where I fixed it up to it present configuration as a pocket tour bike. The snarling 200 CCs of raw Chinese power is ok on the straights, but a bit wimpy on steep hills. Sure is great at the gas pumps though. Think I will be missing my KTM 950 in the Himalayas....
    Plan is to cross the border, first hit Kunming, and then onto Chengdu. Get the travel permit for Tibet and then head west to Lhasa , Tibet. Should be an interesting trip........ Stay tuned !!!
    Right now I am at Chang Khong, Thailand. It is in the north east corner of Thailand. Tomorrow morning will cross the Mekong over into Laos. Then head up north from there to the Chinese Laos border town of Boten, about a one day ride. Normally I go on a ride, and then post all the pictures after the ride is done. This trip I wanted to make a change by posting during the trip. It will make it seem more live I think, and any input by my fellow ADV riders more relevant. So will start posting pictures once I am in Laos.
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  2. m0x

    m0x the VooDoo Child

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    welcome to asia

    thumbs up on this one, claps too

    :clap :clap :clap
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  3. wachs

    wachs just passin' through

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    Zippy looks good - is it a 2 smoker?
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  4. hez

    hez no longer rational

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    If you right click on any image you can choose "Properties" from the drop down list. Then you can copy/paste the address from the "Address/URL" on the properties window.
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  5. britman

    britman Britman

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    Did it come with the small running lights on the forks?
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  6. petefromberkeley

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    WITH a bike? Unless you are Chinese, I hear they don't take kindly to people wandering around on thier own transportation unless you pay for a Chinese guard to be with you.
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  7. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    Where did you hear that? :ear

    I've been wandering on my own in China since 1999. Nobody ever gave me any hassles, anywhere. OTOH, I've never tried to cross into China with a Chinese registered bike that, obviously, isn't registered to me in China. That could present some issues. :eek1

    Waiting for more updates from the road. :lurk


    Gustavo
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  8. GB

    GB . Administrator

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    Excellent!! Thanks for the links!! :thumb

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  9. BeachBusker

    BeachBusker R.I.P. George

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  10. rtw02

    rtw02 Been here awhile

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    Good Luck Robert.:clap :clap :clap
    Just to make it interesting, come back through Burma for us...:lol3
    Cheers
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  11. 91ctrk

    91ctrk Been here awhile

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    BB,
    How long are you gonna be in China?
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  12. beemer boy

    beemer boy Oh no, he's gone Asian

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    My visa is for two months. So if I am having the time of my life I will stay the full length of the visa. If things are not going so well, I may cut it short. Sometimes the hassle index overcomes the fun index.

    No not a two stroker, although many people ask because the heat shield looks like an expansion chamber. Think it was a small mistake when they reverse engineered the bike. :evil

    I added in the driving lights. They were laying around in my junk box, and I was bored.......
    They are PIAA 35 watt lights. I also put in an outlet for my electric vest in case I start freezing my ass off in the Himalayas. The alternator only puts out 20 amps, so will try not to use both at the same time.
    Unless I am freezing my ass off going down a mountain road in the dark........

    The bike is completely legal and currently registered in Beijing. I have a signed bill of sale from the previous owner transferring it to me. I have an international license which is not good in China, so that may be a problem......
    Although that is a police issue, should not affect any customs issues at the border. In any case this whole issue will be brought to a rest in 12 hours, as tomorrow morning I will be trying to cross the border.
    Right now I am at a internet cafe at the border town between Laos and China . One of the strangest places I have ever been. My feet are in Laos, but for all intents and purposes I am already in China. Almost everybody is Chinese and everything is priced in Yuan. All built up in the last year, the whole area looks like a construction zone with a huge casino in the middle of it. It is like China took a little piece of Laos.....and packed it full of Chinese gamblers. I had dinner with a very polite young man who worked at the front desk of the casino hotel. Think he wanted to practice his English. I asked him how long people stayed here to gamble , thinking the answer was a couple of days. He said many people stay for one to two months. Now that is serious gambling !!!!!
    Zippy was giving me some trouble today. There is some sort of fuel starvation issue I cannot seem to resolve. Had the carb apart several times, and even replaced the coil yesterday in Thailand . So today all day long it would ride fine for a while, and then start sputtering and quit by the side of the road. Would sit for a few minutes, and then fire right up . Hopefully tomorrow it will be back in its homeland, and I can start replacing things until it works right. Will start with the carb, and move on from there. One of the charms of a cheapie bike, not painful to buy parts for it.
    So hopefully tomorrow things at the border will go well. Am praying there will not be a photo of a border guard with a AK47 looking sternly at me at pointing back towards Laos....
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  13. xs400

    xs400 Be seeing you

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    Great stuff - keep it coming.
    Take care and have fun.
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  14. BDKW1

    BDKW1 KL"X" not "R"

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  15. riceburner30281

    riceburner30281 misADVenturer

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    sounds like trash in the tank, or a clogged fuel filter? blocked airway?
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  16. Gustavo

    Gustavo Motociclista Errante

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    Did you check the tank vent hose? The symptoms are similar to those of a kinked/pinched vent hose. Try opening the fuel cap when it quits again. If you hear air rush in and/or the bike fires right up after it dies without waiting, it's a tank venting issue for sure.

    Zaijian,

    Gustavo
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  17. petefromberkeley

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    Ahh, now I get it, the bike is registered in China. Well that ought to work. I haven't heard of this exact situation before. To answer the question above, go to www.horizonsunlimited.com where the situation is disscussed at lenth in several threads. I've been wandering around China for many years too, but you can't get a forign vehicle in there unless you pay for a guard. And they are EXPENSIVE. A couple of girls drove a tuk tuk from Bangkok to Brighton and they were able to fit the guy in the tuk tuk with them!

    Good luck with the border crossing. I think technically, you do need a Chinese driving licence (and you have to take the test in Chinese) but you might be able to talk your way around that. People have done that before a lot.
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  18. rtw02

    rtw02 Been here awhile

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    Bike Problems!!!
    You did'nt let David FL anywhere near it did you??:rofl :rofl :rofl
    Might be the float sticking?
    Hope you get in.
    Cheers
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  19. CrazyCarl

    CrazyCarl The Eternal NooB

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    BB,

    That exact problem has been habitual on that bike since it was practically new. I actually got video of it being towed by his friend for that exact problem. Both identical bikes had the exact same problem though at the same time and occured shortly after they had some fun in deep sand with no air box covers installed. Hard to tell when you get good gas in these places. It caused the original owner to replace the carb in Golmud last summer.

    If you are sure you got good gas and installed a clear fuel filter then you should be able to tell if there's at least fuel in the line. Also, sometimes these tanks vent through the filler cap.

    Electrically, you already changed the coil but how about the spark box? Little things like that go out on these bikes all the time. Oh also, don't be surprised if you hear your starter solenoid begin to miss. (takity takity!)

    Interesting to hear about Lao-China. You'll find the Chinese to be a culture stepped in a long history of gambling. I think Confucious said "If a man cannot work, then let him play games." And that's just what they did..and still do! :)

    Hope for some good news at the border.

    CC
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  20. team ftb

    team ftb Befuddled Adventurer

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    Robert,

    Last I heard you were duck paddling that bike up the hills to Chaeng Sean. Lets hope the hills of these travels ease up a bit for you:evil .

    Really looking forward to your next post and great to see the humor you have dealing with this bike journey amongst the GT rider clan.


    Good luck.
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