City of Angels and Smog to Cabo San Lucas

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  1. jorbar1551

    jorbar1551 Adventurer

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    I'm planning a trip to Cabo in March for my cousins wedding and was planning on riding. Only have 2 days to get down there. I think we plan on taking the toll road but haven't researched much yet.

    I'm riding a Africa Twin and the range isn't the best. What can I expect regarding gas stops?

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  2. Sjoerd Bakker

    Sjoerd Bakker Long timer

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    Two days LA to CSL is really going to be a trial and will require night riding- not a good idea in Mexico . You will be dead on your feet .
    Fly down and you can be awake and alert for the ritual sacrificing .

    Make the ride someday when you can afford much more time .
    " The toll road " will only get you from the border and out of Tijuana to Ensenada . After that it is all just the two lane Mex 1 , with a bit of four lane around La Paz .
    Not what you expected I bet?
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  3. TUCKERS

    TUCKERS the famous james

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    Like Sjoerd said.......that's a along haul in two days. Seems to me you'll spend half a day LA to Ensenada, then you still have over 1000 miles to go. Plus don't even think you'll get away with speeding, if you are in that much of a hurry expect to get at least one ticket...most likely the cop that waits just after Mama Espinosas! That'll cost you time and money. Mama's to the gas station before Guerro is 205 miles.....so you'll have to stop at Catavina and buy from the 40 gallon drum....another time constraint. Furthest I've made it in one day from Claremont is to Mama's and it was already dark. I'd advise slowing down before Guerro too.....that's where I hit a cow! IN THE DAYLIGHT!
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  4. going south

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    I agree with Sjoerd & Tuckers... Plus I read/heard the Tijuana crossing going south will be closed, (or is closed) not sure when to reopen forcing you to go to one of the crossing's to the east and even more out of your way/time...
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  5. Strong Bad

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    There are two crossings into Tijuana, San Ysidro & Otay Mesa. San Ysidro recently reopened after a brief closure for construction.

    I have returned to LA from Cabo (and La Paz) after SOCRE races many times and have done it in 2 days many more times than I would have wanted. I would not recommend attempting doing this as a 2 day "Speed Run" unless you've got lots of experience traveling on the highway.

    With paving Hwy 5 going as far south as it has, crossing at Mexicali going through San Flippy and coming out at Hwy 1 at Laguna Chapala could now be the fastest way as it by-passes all of the traffic from the border to San Quintin.
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  6. jorbar1551

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    We aren't planning to go until March. Probably leave LA at 3 am but thanks for the advice

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  7. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra

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    2 days is possible. Crossing at Mexicali would be faster. I'd stay the night before at Calexico and get your FMM ahead of time (on the moto, you can ride to the front of the line on return). Or if Sjoerd has a recommendation with safe moto parking in Mexicali, save money and stay there. Then 0:dark:30 start at the border. You need to make at least San Ignacio and better would be Santa Rosalia or Mulege. Gas up (regular only) at the Gonzaga Bay Pemex, around 100 miles south of San Felipe. Barrel gas is available from the guy in the blue pickup at the BOLA turnoff or at the auto parts place in Nuevo Rosarito. Next Pemex (IIRC) is Guerrero Negro. The first half of the ride is pretty wide open so you can make time. Do slow down when you get to towns as the local cops do write tickets. In towns I like to make sure a local is going faster than me. Also, if you haven't ridden Mexico you need to realize there will be more road hazards (dogs, burros, cows, rocks, abandoned/broken down cars etc) without any kind of warning. It's good practice for the basic speed law - ride at a safe speed for the conditions. Don't override your sight distance. I can't imagine a more scenic road ride than riding south from Mulege at sunrise beside Bahia Concepcion. You'll start riding through bigger towns/cities and traffic will increase the closer you get. I haven't been south of Loreto for 10 years and I remember sections of traffic back then so can only imagine what it is like now. There is a new multi lane highway leading the last bit to Cabo so at least that should be better than I remember.

    Have fun and do at least a short report to let us know how it went.
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  8. Hill Climber

    Hill Climber Been here awhile

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    You'll also experience what Mexican Topes are in most towns and villages. When you see a sign "Poblado Proximo" (Town Near), expect at least 3 Topes (speed bumps). They're often not marked well, and some of them are bone jarring and suspension testers. Night time riding and it's impossible to see them.

    Here are a few (well, maybe a lot...) road signs that will come in handy. Memorize the important ones:

    Mexican Road Sign Translations from Spanish to English

    SPANISH ENGLISH

    ACOTAMIENTO FLOJO or SUELO FLOJO Soft and/or Sandy Shoulders

    ALTO Stop

    AREA DE DESCANSO Rest Area

    ASCENSO Y DESCENSO DE PEAJE A 250 m Toll Booth Barrier Ahead in 250 m

    CALLE SIN SALIDA Dead End

    CAMELLON CENTRAL Center Divider

    CAMINO CERRADO Road Closed

    CAMINO SINUOSO Winding Road

    CARRIL IZQUIERDO SOLO PARA REBASAR Left lane Only for Passing

    CARRIL LATERAL SOLO POR VEHICULOS LIGEROS Laterals Only for Light Vehicles

    CASETA DE COBRO Toll Booth

    CEDA EL PASO AL PEATON Give Way to Pedestrians

    CICLOPISTA Bicycle Path

    CON LLUVIA DISMINUYA SU VELOCIDAD In Rain Reduce Your Speed

    CON NEBLINA ENCIENDA SUS LUCES In Fog Turn on Lights

    CONCEDA CAMBIO DE CIERRE SU ESCAPE Close Muffler By-Pass

    CONCEDA CAMBIO DE LUCES Dim Your Lights Approaching Traffic

    CONSERVE LIMPIO QUINTANA ROO Keep Quintana-Roo Clean

    CONSERVE SU DISTANCIA Keep Your Distance

    CONSERVE SU DERECHA Keep to Your Right

    CRUCE DE ESCOLARES School Crossing

    CRUCE DE PEATONES Pedestrian Crossing

    CUANDO TOME NO MANEJE When You Drink Don’t Drive

    CUIDADO CON EL TREN Careful Rail Road Crossing

    CURVA PELIGROSO Dangerous Curve

    DEMUESTRE SU CULTURA, NO TIRE BASURA = Demonstrate your civilized upbringing ( culture) and don't litter the roads


    DESPACIO Slow

    DEPOSITOS DE BASURA EN CASETAS TELEFONICAS Deposit Trash at the Telephone Booth

    DESVIACION A 500 MTS Detour in 500 Meters

    DISMINUYA SU VELOCIDAD Slow Down

    DISMINUYA SU VELOCIDAD Reduce Your Speed Toll Booth in 1Km

    CASETA DE COBRO A 1Km

    ELIJA SU CARRIL OPORTUNAMENTE Select Your Lane At Earliest Opportunity

    EN B.C.S ES OBLIGATORIO In Baja California South Seatbelts Are Mandatory

    EL CINTURON DE SEGURIDAD

    ENTRADA Entrance

    ENTRADA Y SALIDA DE CAMIONES Trucks Entering and Exiting

    ENTRONQUE PROXIMO Intersection Near

    ENTRONQUE PELIGROSO Dangerous Intersection

    ESTA CARRETERA NO ES DE ALTA VELOCIDAD This is Not a High Speed Road

    ESTACIONAMIENTO SOLO PARA EMERGENCIAS Emergency Parking Only

    ESTE CAMINO NO ES DE ALTA VELOCIDAD Not a High-Speed Road

    EVITE ACCIDENTES Avoid Accidents

    EVITE LA INSTALLACION DE TOPES Avoid the Installation of Speed Bumps

    FELIZ VIAJE REBASE CON PRECAUCION Have a Good Trip Pass with Caution

    GRACIAS POR USAR EL Thanks For Using Your Seatbelt

    CINTURON DE SUGURIDAD

    GRAVA SUELTA Loose Gravel

    GUARDE SU DISTANCIA Keep Your Distance

    HOMBRES TRABAJANDO Men at Work

    LO MEJOR TUS VACACIONES UN BUEN REGRESO A CASA The Best of Your Vacation is a Good Return Home

    LUCES Dim Your Lights

    MANEJE CON PRECAUCION Drive with Caution

    MANEJE CON PRECAUCION SU FAMILIA LE ESPERA Drive with Caution Your Family Waits For You

    MAQUINA TRABAJANDO Heavy Machines at Work

    MIRADOR DE MOLINERO View Point Of Mill

    NO CIRCULAR POR EL ACOTAMIENTO No Driving On the Shoulders

    NO DE FRENTE No Entry

    NO DEJE PIEDRAS EL ACOTAMIENTO Do not leave rocks on the highway

    NO DOBLE RODADO No Trucks with Duals

    NO ESTACIONARSE EN ACOTAMIENTO No Parking On Shoulders

    NO FRENE CON MOTOR No Engine Breaks

    NO MALTRATE LAS SENALES Don’t Disregard the Signs

    NO MANEJE Don’t Drive Tired

    NO REBASE CON RAYA CONTINUA No Passing on a Continuous Line

    NO REBASE POR EL ACONTAMIENTO No Passing on Shoulders

    NO REBASE No Passing

    NO TIRE BASURA Don’t Throw Trash

    NO TRANSITE POR FRANJAS LATERALES Do Not Drive on Shoulders

    NO UTILIZAR FRENO CON MOTOR No Engine Breaking

    OBEDEZCA LAS SENALES Obey the Signs

    PARA VUELTA IZQUIERDA ESPERE SU LUZ Turing Left on Light

    PARADERO Bus Stop

    PAVEMENTO DERRAPANTE AL ESTAR HUMEDO Pavement Slick When Wet

    PERMITA REBASAR UNTILICE SU EXTREMA DERECHA Allow Passing Use Extreme Right

    PLAZA DE COBRO Toll Both

    POBLADO PROXIMO Town Near

    POR TU SEGURIDAD RESPETE LAS SEÑALES For your Safety Respect The Signs

    PELIGROSO Dangerous

    PRECUACION CRUCE DE PEATONES Caution Pedestrian Crossing

    PRECAUCION ZONA ESCOLAR Caution School Zone

    PRECAUCION ZONA DE GUANDO Caution Livestock Zone

    PRECAUCION ZONA DE TOLVANERAS Precaution Wind Zone

    PRINCIPIA TRAMO EN REPARACION Main Highway Under Repair

    PRINCIPIA ZONA DE DERRUMBES Begin Rockslide Area

    PRINCIPIA ZONA DE VADOS Begin Area of Dips

    PROHIBIDO ESTACIONARSE No Parking

    PROHIBIDO TIRAR BASURA Throwing Thrash Prohibited

    PROHIBIDO TIRAR BASURA MULTA O CARCEL Throwing Trash Prohibited by Fine or Jail

    PUENTE ANGOSTO Narrow Bridge

    RADAR EN OPERACION Radar in Operation

    REDUCCION DE ACOTAMIENTO Reduction of Shoulders

    REDUCCION A DOS CARRILES Reduction to Two Lanes

    REDUCTOR DE VELOCIDAD Speed Bumps

    RESPETE LIMITE DE VELOCIDAD Obey the Speed Limit

    RETURNO A 2KM CARRIL IZQUIERDO U-Turn In 2km Left Lane

    RUTA DE CAMIONES Truck Route

    SALIDA Exit

    SALIDA A 150 MTS RAMPA DE SEGURIDAD VEHULOS SIN FRENOS Exit in 150 MTS for Vehicles without Brakes

    SEMAFORO EN OPERACION Stop Light In Operation

    SE USARA GRUA Tow-Away Zone

    SI TOMA NO MANEJE Don’t Drink and Drive

    TERMINA AMPLIACION End of Shoulders

    TERMINA ZONA DE DERRUMBES End Rockslide Area

    TOLVANERAS Dust Storm or Dust Cloud


    TOPES Speed Bumps

    TRAFICO PESADO Heavy Traffic Go Right

    TRAMO EN REPARACION Road Repairs

    TRANSITO LENTO CARRIL DERECHO Slow Traffic Keep Right

    TRANSITO PESADO POR LIBRAMIENTO Heavy Traffic by Libramiento or Circle Route

    TROPICO DE CANCER Tropic of Cancer

    UN SOLO CARRIL Single Lane

    VADO PELIGROSO Dangerous Dip

    VEHICULOS LIGEROS Light Vehicles

    VEHICULOS PESADOS Heavy Vehicles

    ZONA DE FALLAS Landslide Area

    ZONA DE GANADO Cattle Area

    ZONA URBANA Urban Zone Slow Dow
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  9. stormdog

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    Unless it's a sunrise wedding you really have a third day
    Your cousin isn't going to see you till the reception any way
    So come sliding in just as the first toast is made
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  10. Sjoerd Bakker

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    Jonz , I think Jorbar may have signed off until March . They are leaving LA at 3 am . He said so . That means he/ they will have not slept since the night before- now that is a good way to start a 1500km+ day ride (?)


    Not much point in us putting our brains in overdrive assembling a schedule and route for him. The wedding may be off by then .
    MEXICALI routing really wouldn't save him any time as he would first have to ride there instead of using the time to get SOUTH as fast and as far possible . The whole idea of riding in to get an FMM and then retreating to USA for the night is also counter to logic , at Mexicali and at every other border crossing .Go in and make it stick , none of this namby pamby crap of retreatong for beddiebye in the US border towns .
    Why not get the FMM a month beforehand and ride to Tijuana the moment he gets off work , see how far towards Ensenada he gets that evening and check into a motel -- ANY MOTEL -- and then make a sunrise start to the marathon ride.
    From Jorbars 20 +/- posts over the last 8 years it is evident he has been riding a few years but no clue as to if he has EVER ridden in Mexico.
    I suspect not .
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  11. Sjoerd Bakker

    Sjoerd Bakker Long timer

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    HC ,
    Your list needs a few edits for spelling and completeness . Not being nasty here or a nit picker , but accuracy makes a difference and missing words or letters really mess up the message .

    For instance the very first one
    ACOTAMIENTO
    just by itself means only the shoulder

    The sign usually says ACOTAMIENTO FLOJO
    I.e SOFT SHOULDERS

    Some places have signs SUELO FLOJO and similar , just to warn that the roadside sand or soil is soft , so don't try riding or parking there

    TOLVANERAS - I always thought that meant dust storms


    etc . It is mostly a question of understanding the lingo .I Like the signs with a bit of humour
    DEMUESTRE SU CULTURA, NO TIRE BASURA. = Demonstrate your civilized upbringing ( culture) and don't litter the roads .
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    dravnx Been here awhile

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    I always liked OBEDEZCA LAS SEÑALES
    Obey the signs.
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  13. Hill Climber

    Hill Climber Been here awhile

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    Thanks SB... added the corrections/additions. I have these on a reference sheet beside me when I travel by truck or car.
    At least they're a starting point to figure out what they interpret as !!
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  14. stormdog

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    As far as signs with humor goes, there is a stretch of two lane between El Golfo and Puerto Penazco that has a sign every few kilometers warning of wild life on the road you know the ones that have an outline of a rabbit or deer etc
    One of them is of a caribou
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