CJ 750 VIN Location

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  1. chinacowboy

    chinacowboy n00b

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    I just bought a CJ 750 and am going through the steps to try an register it. I can't seem to find a VIN. Where were these numbers usually placed on the bike. I did find a frame number but it is only 7 digits long. Would DMV except a frame number in lieu of a non-standard 17 digit vin?

    Thanks In Advance

    PS Trying to register in Texas.
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  2. DRONE

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  3. brstar

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    If it has a sidecar fitted you at least will be able to fit it to a registered bike.
    A 750cc cruiser would be a good fit.
    My 2 cents
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  4. bpw

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    If it is an old bike and you have a title that matches the frame number you may be OK. I have several vintage bikes with non-17 digit VINs and no trouble to register.

    But, those numbers are period correct and I had proper title for bikes that were legally imported to the US.
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  5. chinacowboy

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    Thanks guys. Primarily looking for information from other CJ 750 orders on the location of the vin and if a motor or frame number that was a non standard vin was used for titling.
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  6. bpw

    bpw Been here awhile

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    How old is the CJ? Since the early 1970's everything was required to have a 17 digit VIN so if the bike is newer than the cut-off I suspect DMV will want a 17 proper VIN. Older than that all kinds of weird things were done.

    Do you have a title for it?
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  7. chinacowboy

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    Its a 1957-- pre-vin years. I found some resources at the Chang Jiang Enthusiasts Yahoo Message board and will update here what the final outcome was for registration. Thanks!
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  8. arbalest

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    Chinacowboy, I don't want to rain on your parade, but there is no such thing as a 1957 Chang Jiang. Changs were not manufactured in China until the early 60's. For a while, Chinese suppliers would give you paperwork that said anything you wanted it to say. U.S. Customs caught on to that pretty quickly. There are some legally titled Changs in the U.S. If you live in a title state, good luck getting it registered. We are lucky, here in Maine. No title is required or issued by the state for any vehicle prior to 1993. All that is required is a bill of sale. If the bike is 25 years old, it can be registered as an antique, and no longer is required to have State safety inspections. Your best bet is to buy a titled BMW /2 frame with transmission, swingarm and final drive, and an old Dnepr. Hang the Chang sidecar off the BMW frame (it will bolt on), hook up the Chang motor to the /2 transmission (it will bolt right up), and put as much of the Dnepr stuff as fits on the /2 frame. Or you could buy a Chang that is already in the States legally.
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  9. fftommyd

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    I'm new on here and not sure if I'm doing this right but I picked up a bike and sidecar that appears to be a CJ750 but the title says 1941 BMW R71. I am unable to find a vin number anywhere on the frame so far. Any ideas ?
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  10. DRONE

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    This is an actual State of Florida Certificate of Title that says this?

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    Yes, It is just like the one pictured
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    While the title is obviously wrong, I would be really careful about any attempt to correct it. Could very easily wind up with a bike that can't be registered.

    I would be inclined to go register it and keep my mouth shut.
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  13. DRONE

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    ^^^What HE said.^^^
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    Actually, that's what I did. I have new title and tag. It's strange however, in that the bike was in a museum for 15 years and didn't run. The curator said that when he bought it someone from DMV came out to verify the vin so he could change from out of state title to Florida. Anyone know where vin#s are on CJ's and BMW ? I haven't found anything yet. Thanks all for your help and input.
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  15. Ridn3

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    I had a 1980 BMW with a 6 or 7 diges vin so I suspect that was the last year.
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  16. fftommyd

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    I'm new on here and not sure if I'm doing this right but I picked up a bike and sidecar that appears to be a CJ750 but the title says 1941 BMW R71. I am unable to find a vin number anywhere on the frame so far. Any ideas ?
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  17. fftommyd

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    Yes I have a new title , 6 digit, it's registered wih a new tag. Title says 1941 BMW. I am unable to locate any serial number on the frame so far. The serial number matches the BMW production numbers and range. I'll try and put some photos on here for anyone to check out, get some opinions

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  18. cycleman2

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    On a 70's BMW /5 frame that I used on a project the serial number was on the right down tube, up near the neck. It was hard to locate in the paint, but it was there, and the vin # was much shorter than 17 characters/numbers.

    Just a thought on a place to look and it is on the right side as you sit on the bike.
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  19. Jollyrogers

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    I have one, you can come get it if you like, I’ll take whatever reasonable offer you come up with, and I have spare parts. Carbs, down tubes and brakes... maybe more. My bike ran, but has sat now for about 3 years and needs to have someone willing to work on it. Tires/tubes flush gas and all fluids, and it will probably run ok for putting around. The side rig may be worth using for a project.

    It’s registered and titled in Virginia as a 1970 BMW motorcycle with permanent antique tags. I used to ride my dog around in, and go to local functions/parades with it.

    The VIN is on the frame on the left side below the riders seat.

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