CJ750 sidecar-WWII based BMW R71 and R75 replica

Discussion in 'Hack Vendors' started by MichaelLi, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. vortexau

    vortexau Outside the Pod-bay

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    Have a search about on the CJ Web-sites. There ARE some builds produced with Left-mounted "boats". A significant number end up in SA, which drives on the Left:
    http://www.changjiangunlimited.com/Cape%20Sidecar%20Adventures.htm

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  2. MichaelLi

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    a lot of people have different opinions about this sidecar, only the people who already rode it has the real feeling.

    We did a lot of tours by cj750 sidecar, one day short tour or long days trip too. Here is one of our ten days trip, share some pictures here
    www.changjiangsidecar.com
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    e-mail: changjiangsidecar@yahoo.com

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  3. Strong Bad

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    Where can I get more information about these tours? I would love to come to China and tour on a sidecar!
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  4. DerViking

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    Nice Photography. I bet those things ride kinda rough, not much suspension by the looks of it?
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  5. Schatzman

    Schatzman I Saved Latin

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    I didn't know the R75 had pontoon mufflers:norton
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  6. tattoogunman

    tattoogunman Been here awhile

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    For what most of these Chinese vendors are selling their bikes for and the shipping costs to the U.S., you're better off building your own hack or buying a Ural. I received several quotes from a few of these places recently and some of the bikes were upwards of $20K or more depending on options, paint, engine type, etc. Not to mention the countless horror stories people have of not being able to get them registered and tagged stateside (few inmates on here notwithstanding). To each their own though, I'm just sayin'..........:ricky
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  7. immulmen

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    That is why someone should buy the one I have for sale. It has been registered in the US!
    I'm just sayin'.......
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  8. MotoJ

    MotoJ Mobtown Hacker

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    Pics & price?
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  9. tattoogunman

    tattoogunman Been here awhile

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    I came across one local to me a few months ago (the one we were talking about), I was actually shocked to see someone selling a registered and tagged CJ750 and it was the first one I had seen - I had thought they were a myth up until that point :evil
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  10. immulmen

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  11. MichaelLi

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    check the pictures below,these bikes can be converted to left-hand, many bikes already in UK, australia ....

    http://www.changjiangsidecar.com/uploadfile/20100726/20100726214132122.jpg
    http://www.changjiangsidecar.com/uploadfile/20100822/20100822160030478.jpg
    http://www.changjiangsidecar.com/uploadfile/20100822/20100822160117974.jpg



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  12. MichaelLi

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  13. MichaelLi

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    See these are our bikes registered successfully in US and they took part in one antique bike show, and got the first prize.

    www.changjiangsidecar.com
    e-mail: changjiangsidecar.com
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  14. jaydmc

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    I have spoken with customs officals in the USA who have had these crushed as they came in with out proper paper work. The paper work claimed that the new bikes were in fact old bikes. Even with false paper work the bikes still need to have DOT aproved wheels, tires, brakes, lights and more. To bring them in legal with out "fake" paper work they also need to meet EPA regulations. So while you may be able to bring them in some ports at others they will crush the bikes. Port of Seattle would have them crushed. Port of Tacoma less then 50 miles away more then likley you would not have problems. I have found this to be the case just bringing in sidecars. In the case of the sidecar. If the lights are installed on the sidecar no problem as lights are not required on sidecars. If however as is the case when we use to bring in Sputnik sidecars, if the lights are shipped with the sidecar and not installed then as you could be planing on installing the lights on some thing that requires DOT aproval they will not allow importation. I have spent a lot of money on lawyers dealing with customs on these issues and even had a senetor involved that US customs pretty much told him to go away that they can do what ever they want.
    Bottom line, the bikes are not coming in legaly, you might get away with it, You might not. Would it not make more sense to do this right? Get proper certification like Ural did and even a Dnepr importer (RAM) did at one time and not try and claim that they are some thing they are not?
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  15. MichaelLi

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    May be you are right different regions with different rules, but for us we have been doing this for many years, haven't met the problems.

    All of the bikes we shipped are old bikes, and they can get the legal registrations, totally no problem.

    Just after the 2013 New Yearr, the other six bikes( s small container) arrived their new home in US successfully.




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  16. gspell68

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    If you like to daydream about Rooskie bikes for sale in foreign lands, check out these links to the Polish version of eBay.
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  17. gspell68

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    If they were made (or at least documented) before 1978 they are excluded from EPA and DOT requirements. That means no blinker, lights, brake, emissions, etc concerns. If they are more than 25 years old they can be exempted from the EPA and DOT regs.

    And Lloyd at RAM was technically not a Dnepr importer. He was a an American motorcycle manufacturer because he had to rebuild the Dneprs to meet all the same requirements as any other American company such as H-D. RAM bikes will carry a data tag and MSO stating such.
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  18. China2wheels

    China2wheels Been here awhile

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    China - land of "fakes". Fake baby food, fake beef/lamb (actually rat meat), fake medicine, and virtually zero concern for any IPR. As for fake documents, they are so common that very few people in China actually believe what is written down.

    You are dreaming if you believe that you are getting an "old" CJ750 with legitimate paperwork. Almost all of the CJs that are "restored" and sent abroad were made within the last decade, or so.

    A pre-1978 bike is very rare, and commands a high price among collectors inside China - it wouldn't be used as a junker for "restoration". Those old bikes were also 6 Volt.

    In China, there is a universal, mandatory scrapping law for motorcycles (sidecars included). They MUST be scrapped (crushed) after 11 years. That is the law. You cannot register/insure a bike older than 11 years. And you can NOT register your license plate on another bike UNTIL the old bike is turned over to the police and scrapped by the official police facility.

    So, any old bikes that were somehow tucked away in a garage (unlikely since the owner probably wants the plate transfered) are rare, and Chinese collectors snap up whatever comes available. By the way, once a bike is older than 11 years, there is no way it can be registered.

    So, DMC is totally correct, the "builders" here (I have lived in Beijing a long time), send these things out with fake paperwork. By the way, I (and anyone else) can easily acquire a full set of fake paperwork for any bike, for about $30, in Beijing.

    This Is China.
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  19. Dan Alexander

    Dan Alexander Ride Far - Ride Fast

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    That is one strange law ... 11 years and off to the crusher :huh

    Why would they do such a thing, is the quality so bad that after 11 years they figure it's unsafe?
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  20. China2wheels

    China2wheels Been here awhile

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    Actually, CJ750 quality is so bad, even 5 years is a long time. However, with BMW, Ducati, Harley, etc now being sold in China, the government has just increased the "lifespan rule" to 13 years. This is China - not a lot makes sense.
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