Clipping Cars While Flitering?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by GoGoGavin41, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. GoGoGavin41

    GoGoGavin41 Isn't this that guy?

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    So I just moved to CA and am getting into filtering/splitting. I actually really like it as it cuts our travel time in half or more in most places.

    Earlier in the week, my floppy handguard on my clutch hand clipped some guy's mirror while I was filtering. He was close to the line and I was going plenty slow and kind of weaving so as to avoid actually hitting his car. It just barely touched, definitely no damage, and he did not seem to care (that is, he didn't ride up my a$$ and shoot at me). Has anyone had any more extreme experience with contacting cars while filtering? Your fault/cage's fault, do you stop/run? haha

    I take care not to filter if there is obviously not enough room for me, and I slow way down if it looks like it will be narrow at all. I'm more interested in people's actual experiences rather than being chastised for being a lane splitting hooligan :1drink
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  2. mamm

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    You and every other rider in the world! :D

    If you commute by bike every day (I do), it's bound to happen once in a while. When it happens to me, I stop, flip up the visor, make eye contact with the driver, say/mimic an apology and wait for an acknowledgement from him/her. It works, the situation never escalated.
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  3. Yossarian™

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    In the instance you cite, your fault.

    Cage driver was "close to the line", so not on or over the line. In other words, in his lane.

    You, as the passer, bear the responsibility of making the pass in a safe manner.

    Should you cause damage during any passing maneuver, I hope you stop and make yourself accountable.
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    :nod

    I know I would be pissed if someone damaged my car like that.

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  5. mamm

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    Ahem:

    This corroborates my experience. The few times it happened to me, no damage either, it was always a very light touch. I followed the procedure outlined in my previous post and both me and the respective drivers did go on our merry ways.
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    Wait, we are on ADV after all. The forum where someone can be shot if he leaves a note on your helmet hanging off your handbars (don't touch my property even with the tip of a sheet of paper!) but where you can clip every mirrors you want and it's the cager's fault (get out of my way!)











































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    So we can do whatever we want on the road as long as there's no damage? Cagers included? I mean, if a car bumps your rear tire at a red light (let's say you're not filtering) with no damage to you or your bike, it's ok then?
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    Of course not. Did you miss the part where I said that I always stop and talk/apologize to the driver AND WAIT FOR HIS/HER "OK" before leaving the scene?
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  9. car94

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    I would shoot someone for nicking my car while I was in traffic!! I am pretty sure even in Ca, its legal to stand your paint jobs ground, and for calling Lane Splitting , Filtering - WTF? Why do you punks have to rename/shorten everything? :deal Had some twit tell me "preash bro" the other day! Really, you can't muster the energy to say Thank You, or Brother!:huh
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  10. Mangle

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    I sure as shit is stinky wouldn't just ride away -- that's how you loose legal lane-splitting.
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    GoGoGavin41 Isn't this that guy?

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    :rolleyes I guess this should be a lesson to me that I shouldn't even bother putting these disclaimers in. In fact, maybe I shouldn't post, period :lol3
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  12. Anorak

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    I exploded a right rear view mirror with a bar end as I was getting on the freeway once. The driver thought she could pass a bunch of traffic by cutting onto the onramp while I was on it.

    Then there was the minivan tail light with the other bar. Bent the bar and broke my little finger. I had pieces of the tail light in my lap when I got to work.
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    Ahem, I said IF someone damaged my car like that! I did not accuse the OP of actually creating any damage!

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  14. Tragic Image

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    I clipped a car trailer one time with the hard cases I had on. No damage to his trailer, scratches to my fairings.

    He was PISSED! I got an ass chewing for a few good minutes, and then offered my insurance info. He said no.
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  15. LuciferMutt

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    All I know is if you clip any part of any of my vehicles while splitting, I will be fucking pissed, even if you "think" there is "no damage." Won't be able to catch you, but you bet your ass I'm taking your plate number and reporting you as a hit and run.

    Short story -- don't clip people's vehicles. If you can't fit, don't split.
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    AFTER it happened, good, apologies are, or at least should be, the norm. Shit happens, everything's fine if everyone's happy with the outcome. What kind of choice do you have after the incident anyway? It's too late so you better apologize.

    But it doesn't turn it into a good move in the first place.


    Your bike is parked in your local Wal-mart parking lot, a guy passing by think it's a cool and nice bike, decides to put his ass on it just to see "how it feels". Bad balance, sloppy ground, oil patch, whatever...he drops the bike. Oh don't worry, very gently, no damage. You saw everything from a distance but you came too late...The guy appologizes, deeply. End of story? Remember, no damage to your bike. Good move? Let me guess...
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  17. It'sNotTheBike

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    If the other vehicle is stationary and you hit it accidentally while trying to ride past it,
    your riding skills are lacking and it's probably not a good idea to even be trying to
    lane split. You might not even belong on a motorcycle on a public road, period.

    Spatial awareness is one of the things that keeps you alive riding on the street.
    Judgement is another of those things that keeps you alive. It appears you
    need to work on both of those.


    Like Clint said in one of those Dirty Harry movies : "A man's gotta know his limitations"



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  18. mamm

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    Well, I think that dropping a bike is just a little more extreme than barely touching a mirror.

    But regardless, if I find myself in your hypothetical scenario, I'd verify that my bike has no real damage and look in the eyes of the perpetrator to see if he is really regretful and apologetic, and if both are true then we're done here, man. It's only a machine, no harm done.

    But if there's damage, of course I'd demand full refund. And that's exactly what I do when I'm in the opposite role (let me say it for the third time, maybe this time it'll sink in): I stop, talk to the "victim" of my actions and await for his/her decision. If he says "pay for this tiny scratch", I'll respond with "let me get my checkbook."
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  19. LuciferMutt

    LuciferMutt Rides slow bike slow

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    Again, it's your definition of "barely." The car driver may not see it that way.

    If you clip my mirror and say "I barely touched it" I'm going to assume you are an asshole and you are trying to deny responsibility for your fuck up.
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    Nobody is immune to a brain fart. Even Valentino and Casey sometimes do stupid things on a motorbike.
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