Close Call - Can I call law enforcement?

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by richard.bessey, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. richard.bessey

    richard.bessey Hard Rider

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    All,
    Yesterday, I was cruising down the highway, about 55 MPH
    I come up to an intersection, I am on the highway, a ford explorer has a stop sign.
    I see the ford explorer come to a complete stop, look both ways, I am pretty certain she sees me, and then pull out in front of me.
    I locked both the front and rear, I was certain I was going down. At the last possible moment, the driver saw me and slammed on the brakes, missed me by a couple of feet.

    I survived, didn't dump the bike, just some clouds of smoke from my skidding tires, and lots of adrenaline.

    My question - Should I have turned around and followed the Ford Explorer, get the license plate number, and then call 911 to report a wreckless driver?
    Thoughts?
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  2. grinns

    grinns Semper Fi

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    Why didn't you shoot the bitch?

    Honestly, you won't really get anywhere. I only call in drunks and people driving extremely recklessly. (cutting corners in cars on popular bike roads)

    Be glad you didn't get hit or have to lay it down. Go have a beer. :freaky
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  3. VStromTom

    VStromTom Long timer

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    She did what I always assume a vehicle in that position will do, not see me and pull out. I ride looking for an out, ready position, usually flashing my high beam to make myself more visible, while in my hi-viz jacket.

    You could do as you asked about, probably wouldn't do any good, IMO.
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  4. grinns

    grinns Semper Fi

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    Same and this happens to me too, but I am way more prepared.

    All my crashes are from me being stupid. Once riding to school in the snow :evil , second the turbo kicked in on a 90 deg corner, and third jumping way to freak in high and letting off the gas on the last jump because I thought I would overshoot the road. :rofl
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  5. wibby

    wibby BrotherFromAnotherMother

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    Not sure about Wa laws but here in Oregon, if a cop does not see it, they can't do shit about it
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  6. Kootenai Rider

    Kootenai Rider Displaced Adventurer

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    I don't think this would qualify as wreckless driving. As you stated, she did stop, and attempt to look both ways.

    Unfortunately, the human eye doesn't see vertical, only horizontal. So you and your vertical bike were not easily recognized by her until you were almost horizontal... :evil

    On the flip side, maybe she did see you but merely mis-judged your closing speed. Simple human error that could have been costly.

    I've said this numerous times over in Perfect Line.... when approaching an intersection like that. At the slightest inclination of thinking they won't stop or pull out in front of you, I start some lateral swerves side to side within my lane... I can definitely say I've seen drivers who realize I'm there and they slow their roll or touch the brakes. Also applies to the person who may turn left in front of you. No loud pipes, ABS Brakes or Hi-Viz jackets here btw...:D
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  7. papaduc

    papaduc Been here awhile

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    First things first...go buy a lottery ticket :D
    Being a small object makes it hard for other drivers to judge your speed and distance. The driver may have seen you but thought you were further away.
    Next time (chances are pretty good there will be a next time) use your jedi powers and predict they will pull out then come up with a way to "help" them see you. The moving in your lane mentioned earlier is a good one, you could also turn your headlight to high beam (don't flash it).
    Even after all of your attempts there is still a 50% chance they will pull out so get ready to use thos mad skills you have been developing :deal
    We are all glad you came away from this un-hurt.
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  8. FLYING EYEBALL

    FLYING EYEBALL out of step

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    this kinda shit happens every day...


    *yawn*
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  9. n16ht5

    n16ht5 ride the night

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    yeah, cops don't care unless you're doing 10 over.. :1drink

    let it go.. just know that there are thousands more people like here that are just waiting to mow you over
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  10. acesandeights

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    In Oregon it might be careless driving instead of reckless, but really, it was just inattention. It's something we have ALL done while driving/riding (if you have given driving/riding your complete attention 100% of the time, you're the first I've ever heard of).

    My understanding is 911 is for emergencies. It doesn't sound like an emergency unless the woman was having a seizure, driving drunk, or was on fire. It's just an oh sh*t moment and ride on. When stuff like that happens to me I just wave and figure they realize they almost killed someone.
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  11. richard.bessey

    richard.bessey Hard Rider

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    Thank you everyone for the replies, I will have a beer and buy a lottery ticket :1drink

    Also, thank you for the ideas, swerving inside my lane and flashing my brights, never thought about that. Great idea!

    I ride pretty cautiously, I have had several of these happen before but this was the first one at high speed, and by far the closest.

    Normally, my close calls are in downtown traffic, when I see something similar to this about to happen I slow down or sometimes stop, until the other driver decides what they are going to go, go, stop, etc...

    I appreciate the comments on being carefull, 9 times out of 10 I am and I was pretty certain this driver saw me.

    Now off to the mini mart for a lotto ticket and a cold one.
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  12. liv2rydktms

    liv2rydktms Long timer

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    I was amazed when I studied for the endorsement test, It seemed to me the key concept was defensive driving, watch out for the other guy! :eek1 Glad you escaped unscathed. Good luck with the lottery ticket! :D
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  13. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter

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    I was run off the road once----it was really close to being bad-------I hit the ditch and damaged my bike quite a bit, but I wasn't hurt.

    The person stopped----we called the law--and guess what----------since we didn't touch----he told me I didn't have a leg to stand on. I was shit out of luck.

    Guess I should have hit her-------hell---I wouldn't have had a leg to stand on then either :huh:huh:huh:huh

    Accidents on private property can be very ugly---such as a Wal-Mart parking lot. I was in my jeep--and saw this 17 year old gal coming at a weird angle across the lot very fast---I was in a proper lane--she wasn't------I was stopped----she slammed into me and the cop wouldn't make a report. Not on private property he said. Had to fix that one myself.

    It ain't fair---the bad guys wins.

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  14. dabracing

    dabracing Been here awhile

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    We've all had that happen before if you've been riding m/c's for more than 3 minutes. Live and learn.
    Personally, I'd be more pissed at myself because I didn't take the necessary defensive precautions.
    Like one of the posters above stated; ABS, Hi-Viz gear, high beams, blah, blah, blah, it doesn't matter if they're not looking.
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  15. guns_equal_freedom

    guns_equal_freedom Long timer

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    You need a better insurance company.

    My wife was hit by some brain dead old bitch in a Safeway parking lot.
    My wife's insurance covered the cost to get it repaired plus a rental car for 4 days, and when it was over the old bitch's insurance company sent us a check to cover the cost of the deductible.

    My 1990 FZR1000 was run over in a Navy Exchange parking lot by some brain dead bitch, my insurance company paid to get the bike fixed (I saved them $1,500.00 by not getting stupid shit fixed, like scratches to the frame and swingarm).

    My insurance company went after them like a bum after the last ham sandwich at a free food giveaway.

    She ended up paying me my deductible and she had to repay my insurance company.

    USAA.
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  16. grinns

    grinns Semper Fi

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    That is nice to hear. I thought about getting USAA from state farm.
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  17. thebigkr

    thebigkr Stupid Freak

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    Wife and I were in the minivan about to pull into the alley behind our house when a stupid teenage bitch in a ford ranger pulls out of the alley. She moves her head in a motion that somewhat implied that she was looking both ways and pulled right out in front of our VW Eurovan. It was clear that there was NOTHING going on in her head and she was only turning her head out of some pre-programmed zombie like response to being in an intersection. Slammed on the brakes and didn't crash but both my wife and I burst into laughter as we both instantly realized there was nothing going on in the chicks head.

    I always expect people to pull out in front of me.

    On the swerving in ones lane, I read an article a while back about a study that was performed in the UK on the science behind the lack of awareness of motorcycles. One of my take away items from the article was that people are much more likely to pick up on lateral movement as it stands out as not normally occurring within a lane. I've been using this for some time now and I'm a firm believer that it helps some less attentive drivers to see me coming.

    As far as calling the police, don't bother. Hard enough to get them to respond to real crime let alone tracking down some shithead that can't drive.
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  18. BLU HWY

    BLU HWY Guilty By-Stander

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    SMIDSY: Sorry Mate I didn't See You!

    This vid has helped me....
    <iframe width="560" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/eqQBubilSXU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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  19. VStromTom

    VStromTom Long timer

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    Something else I do is stay in the rut of the lane that makes me most visible to side traffic, from the right that means the left rut of my lane. Also, it is sometimes hard to see from the side that a vehicle is moving since I am moving on the bike. I watch the wheel rims and can usually tell if the vehicle has started to move.
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  20. Hot Stuff

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    It's a lot tougher to find an escape route when you are in dense city traffic. I recently had a guy make a right turn from the center lane right in front of me. i was in the right lane. I had left a buffer zone between me and this car in the center lane, but he hit his brakes hard prior to making the right and that caused the gap between us to close, then he made the right, putting his car perpendicular to my lane and about 6 feet in front of me. I ended up center punching his car and I got ejected from the bike. I landed head first in the street then flipped onto my back. Only injuries to me were a torn MCL in my left knee and possible chipped bone in my foot (awaiting MRI results).

    In retrospect I know threre were some things I should have done to avoid this collision...not sure if anything would have helped in this circumstance.

    I had been behind this guy (in the lane to his right) for several minutes) and certainly wasn't going to pass him on the right. I had Whalen police-spec red and blue strobe lights going the whole time and this asshat still didn't see me. :huh. My two riding buddies right behind me got a nice view of me flying off the bike.

    Back to the OP's original question -- sounds like this was just a case of the driver making a mistake. It happens. Glad you came out okay.
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