CNNA 2014.2 has been released.

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by Emoto, Aug 22, 2013.

  1. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    If I can get the updates to work. :becca
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  2. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    You might find some info to help you in one of the posts of the WaFT.
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  3. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    Thanks. I think my problem was that although I had bought the lifetime update card, I had failed to assign it to a unit (the Montana) so it wouldn't work. Managed to assign it through "my dashboard" and am now attempting to load the maps via the old right-click on Montana internal memory in BaseCamp. Fingers crossed.
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  4. Emmbeedee

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    I've never heard of right clicking the map in Basecamp to update it. I find the only successful method is through the Mapupdater software I linked to in the WaFT.
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  5. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    I think BaseCamp calls the map updater software when you do this. I right-click on "Internal storage" then select "Install maps on..."

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    But, although it did successfully load 2014.2 to the unit, it did NOT remove 2014.1, even though the software claimed it would remove older versions. Any thoughts about what I should do, if anything?
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  6. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    You can probably just delete it via mass storage mode. That's what I do.
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  7. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    Worth a shot. I'll hook it up and see if I can figure out the correct file to delete.

    ETA: Ok, that was easy. It had 2014.1 in the filename. :dunno
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  8. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I thought that pic just called MapInstall? Which would mean you'd have to have already installed the Maps to BaseCamp in order to install them on the Montana with MapInstall.

    You folks on the East Coast must be special - I still don't see 2014.20 LM update on the Garmin site.
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  9. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    :nod The sun rises on us first, too. :deal :wink:

    Well, my installation process was maybe a little unusual because I have both a Zumo 350 and a Montana with "lifetime" maps. I had done the map install for the computer and Zumo before I grabebed the Montana to update its maps. So, yes, the map set was already on the hard drive.
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  10. Emmbeedee

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    That makes more sense. I didn't think Basecamp could make a map update call.
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  11. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    I started the whole thing off by hooking up to the Garmin "my dashboard" because that has been an easy way to get GPS software updates. For no particular reason, it has been my habit to always do the Zumo first, followed by the Montana. I had read in the big Montana thread about 5.30(?) being out, so thought I'd hook up and check both GPS units because maybe there would be a Zumo update too (there wasn't), but was surprised to see that it listed my maps as out of date, so off I went.
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  12. PhilSpace

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    So far I'm good to go on everything but the old zumo 550. In the past, there has always been the option to select a paired down region that met my requirements, this time there was no eastern seaboard option, so I'm trying to figure out how to blow away what is on the GPS so I can selectively install what I want.
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  13. lhendrik

    lhendrik Truffle Rustler

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    Do you have an SD memory card installed in the Zumo? If so, and if you have the space you can load the entire file in a Garmin folder on the SD card, and then select the map file you want to use. An inexpensive 8gb card holds both US and Europe for me.
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    Thanks, I didn't need the entire thing, the new Express Update didn't give me the selective options I wanted. Solution from Garmin was to use the old trusty Map Update program which is still out there and works. The two options are to take one of the regions that it provides (there are a couple more), or download the entire mess to the PC and use the Mapinstall program to select what I want.

    I'm good to go now, didn't want the world, just the eastern US and CaNaDa. :lol2
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  15. Too Tall

    Too Tall Been here awhile

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    Is the new City Navigator NA 2014 available on CD yet for loading onto a PC?
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Doesn't matter. You buy the latest DVD and if you are registered, you get to download the latest update free.
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  17. Emmbeedee

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    When it works. :lol3

    I keep getting 'Map Updater can't update because it can't find a previous version of the map product' or some such message. My Montana 650 has 2014.10 right there in the correct folder, and on the sd card as well.

    I'll call Garmin when I have built up a little reserve of patience. Running a little short on that right now.
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Yeah, I just updated my Montana to 2014.20 using Garmin Map Update v4.5.1 on my Mac and it updated fine. Then used the latest Garmin MapInstall v4.0.2 to update the Montana. All went well.

    I did finally sunset Garmin Lifetime Map Update as it was stuck back on a previous version and could not catch up. I attribute this to Garmin Servers and Garmin Express be so screwed up.
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  19. Emmbeedee

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    I was using the Map Updater I linked in the WaFAQ thread, but I now realize it tends to fail if the LMU is not shut down, and I forgot to do that.

    Must remember that. Or, better yet, remove LMU.
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  20. Emmbeedee

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    Called Garmin today and they got my LMU maps sorted out. They needed to tweek something at their end.

    Also, they told me that they have made progress on the Garmin Express front in the last month, and are now suggesting we try using Express with the Montana and other handheld units to update maps and device software.
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