Howdy All, Yesterday I had posted up on ADV that I was planing on riding up Green Mountain, and gave an invitation to anyone who may want to go along for the trip, I didn't get any takers so I set off to see how far up the mountain I could make it. I left from the Chevron Gas Station in Granite Falls, at 10:35AM. The elevation at the Chevron is around 390 feet. I rode east on the Mountain Loop Hwy, then turned off onto Forest Service Road #41 and headed UP Green Mountain. This next series of photos was taken at around 1,400 feet at this point I am still in one wheel drive as the snow between the truck tracks isn't to deep. At the 1,700 foot level the snow between the truck tracks was getting deep enough to start to float the sidecar in a few places but the bigger problem was ice in the bottom of the ruts left by the trucks. So I installed five of the ten chains that were on the spare tire onto the pusher tire of the rig, this allowed me to continue on up the mountain. Here the grade wasn't as steep and the hump between the tracks wasn't floating the sidecar, I shifted back into one wheel drive, with the chained up pusher I had plenty of traction. I made it around the next switch-back and the grade steepened, at this point around 2,200 feet I had to install the remaining five chains onto the sidecar wheel, now back in two wheel drive I continued the climb. I know in the photo it doesn't look steep but it is. This where I chained up the sidecar wheel. Looking back where I had come from before chaining up the sidecar wheel. At 2,600 feet the hump between the truck tracks was getting higher and harder, off to the left of the road the cliff drops darn near straight off for about a 1,000 feet. You can't really see the edge because of the snow thats on top of the brush that grows along side of the road. :eek1 This was as far as I could go, the hump between the truck tracks was so high and hard that it floated the sidecar, even in two wheel drive and chained up I couldn't get traction as the sidecar tire just dug a trench into the hump and the pusher dug down in the truck track to the point it lost traction as the sidecar was holding the rig up on top of the snow. 2,938 feet was as far as I could go, the top of the ridge is a little over 3,800 feet. In my honest opinion, having a REVERSE gear on a sidecar rig is more important and useful then having two wheel drive. Where I got stuck and couldn't go any further being able to use reverse to turn around in the width of the logging road made a ride like this possible. Not having reverse there is no way that one person alone could have ever got the rig turned around, there is a very DEEP ditch about a foot in front of the front wheel, and a steep slope to the rear of the rig just beyond the edge of the logging road. About 12-15 feet behind the rig is the edge of the cliff, the edge road itself is only about 5 feet behind the rear wheel in this photo. At this point I am about half way turned around. You really DON'T want to slide off the edge of the road or your going over the cliff. OK, all turned around and headed back down the mountain. It was a bright sunny day here in the Nor-Wet, unusual for this time of year, I would have liked to share this day and ride with others but still I had a good time. Having two wheel drive, good tires, chains and reverse allows a person to do this type of thing safely even if they are by themselves.