College Football 2011

Discussion in 'Sports' started by NativeSon, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. liquidsmile

    liquidsmile Long timer

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    Ok. Texas is a school w recruits that reload not rebuild. We are not talking about Notre Dame here. Freshman or not I am sure most of Texas's team are at minimum 4 star recruits. Like I said, if they win against Oklahoma then Diaz has something to hang his hat on.
  2. NativeSon

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    Since he was such a bad coordinator, I guess it's a good thing that he stiffed Texas to go to Florida.
  3. Bubwheat

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    Yepper, correctamondo! I just hope he has more wins, than players arrested this year.

    What's it been, 7 so far? Heck, Myer only had 31 arrested in his 5 years, at this rate Muschamp will be over 51 in 5 years.

    He needs to clean that program up, but it's pretty tough to preach to the choir when your moral compass is out of kilter. :gerg
  4. NativeSon

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    remind me, what's your team?
  5. liquidsmile

    liquidsmile Long timer

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    :lol3 I was thinking the exact same thing.
  6. NativeSon

    NativeSon Long timer

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    for someone I have on block, I do get in a lot of arguments with the idiot.
  7. Bubwheat

    Bubwheat Long timer

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    Idiot? Not nice. :wink:

    I grew up in Texas and played HS football. You can figure out my "team" from there.

    But, I really like to think that my vast experience from almost 60 years of watching college football, makes me so much more than a one team wonder.

    You could learn a lot from me, Grasshopper, it's good that you don't have me blocked. :lol3
  8. Linzi

    Linzi Crazy Plott Lady

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    I think Muschamp seems like a real douche, and I hope he moves along down the road sooner rather than later. TC described him as FL's Lane Kiffin, and I couldn't agree more.
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    Linzi Crazy Plott Lady

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    I swear this reads just like bartkim. If not for the 60 years bit, I'd think it was...
  10. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    :lol3
  11. Bubwheat

    Bubwheat Long timer

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    ...not Bartkim! BTW, looks like "bartkim" changed to "MooreRon" and then got banned?

    Maybe he was a moron, just couldn't spell it! :lol3
  12. The_Commander

    The_Commander The Man.

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    Can't wait to see what sort of line The Hat will get against The Kid.
  13. NativeSon

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    http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/10255471

    UF isn't a dirty program. Not even close. We haven't had trouble with the NCAA since before I was born and all secondary violations are self-reported.

    Maybe you could learn something from me because it sounds like you haven't stepped on a college campus in quite a while and are completely unable to see the big picture. By the way, I'm assuming you never did anything stupid between the ages of 18 and 23, right?

    Florida's arrest rate is high, and that is not something we're proud of. But ask yourself this: do you think Florida's athletes are doing things that college athletes in Austin, South Bend, SC, Tuscaloosa, Columbus, Ann Arbor or Norman aren't? Are you really naive enough to think that all these Universities are recruiting the same kids, from the same high schools, at the same time, but the ones that go to Texas immediately become choir boys while the ones that go to Florida party and break the law?

    Take Randy Shannon at Miami. Under Larry Coker, the arrest rate was sky high. In Shannon's tenure, there wasn't a single arrest made. Are you really naive enough to believe that all athletes magically stopped doing anything bad or illegal? Obviously not, all you have to do is go to Yahoo and reread the Nevin Shapiro article. So how did nobody at Miami get arrested in the four years Randy Shannon was their coach? Hmmmmmm.

    What does that tell you?

    Furthermore, are you glad Muschamp's gone? Or are you pissed he got a better offer that didn't involve having to wait an indefinite amount of time before he was the head coach?

    You've played four cupcake teams and are in a joke of a conference. You better wait a while before crowning the new DC the king of defense.

    And yes I have you on block.
  14. Bubwheat

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    ...or so you say, I'll refrain from answering.

    I'll just will say, ya got a funny way of blocking people. :rofl
  15. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    Damn. :cry As a non-participant I was enjoying a good old fashioned college rivalry debate. We need more of that, not less.
  16. NativeSon

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    i tried.
  17. Jurgen

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    The Spread, The Triple Option or Three yards and a cloud of dust?


    Yeah, I'm talking about where the worst team in the Bowl Championship Division should head. (UNM Lobos for those who haven't been paying attention) Under former coach Locksley he tried to shape UNM into a spread team. I'm not enough of an analyst, but my general impression of what you need for the spread is about three good receivers- at least two with significant speed, and a QB with good accuracy- hopefully some range too.

    Well here's the rub, New Mexico hasn't been the recruiting hotbed that you may think a dusty town with a mediocrilly nice campus is that you may think it could be. In the past Rocky Long, UNM's most successful coach, developed a stout Defense with a conventionally balanced offense. With this he was able to go 7-5 to 9-3 in the Mountain West. Not spectacular but solid results.

    So now UNM is out on coach search. I was watching Utah State (this year's coulda shoulda woulda team) play BYU on Friday night. Utah State plays a run dominated offense. This seemed to have BYU off kilter for much of the game. Made Jurgen go hmmmm.

    Then I thought of the service acadamies--specifically Air Force. Often plays above it's level with the triple option. hmmmm

    Seems like today's college football is dominated by the spread. Teams are used to defending it. More and more they are geared to defending it. Seems like when they go against teams that are run or triple option dominated it sews the seeds of confusion for their defence.

    So, in an environment that you aren't likely to get top tier recruits.--- maybe a few second tier and more third tier--- Would it be best to focus on Defence and maybe build a run dominant offence. Don't have to have as good of QB, can maybe sell a good HS running back (or two) "you will be our feature back, not an accessory to the pass..."

    Just idle beer induced thoughts on a Monday night.

    What say you all?
  18. ]I)Money

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    I think there's good value in being the only guy doing something different.

    I also think that you can probably get some slightly higher quality fullback type recruits, as they just aren't as sought after (though I dearly wish MU would get a couple).
  19. NativeSon

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    I think you're putting the cart before the horse. It depends on who you think you can recruit. It's easier to have an option offense running a traditional scheme than a traditional offense running the option. What does high school football look like in New Mexico?
  20. Bubwheat

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    I'm saying, this team needs a Mike Leach. A proven winner and an offensive genius. Heck, it's pretty simple, just outscore your opponent, and you can get by with a mediocre defense. Is TT really that different from the New Mexico U's? Geographically, TT is closer to them, than to the rest of the Big 12. Why couldn't they compete in the recruiting wars at least with TT? (obvious answer is that very few want to go w/ a loser). Leach could turn the Lobos around. :1drink