Come Near At Your Peril - Dual-Sporting "The Rock"

Discussion in 'Epic Rides' started by Canuman, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. JOERTR

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    If you come, let me know, I have a huge back yard if the weather is nice, and if not a large garage you guys can stay in. I'd offer the house but you'd be better outside away from my 3 kids. lol

    Also, Between myself and a few of the local RTRer's on here there is nothing we can't repair on a bike.

    Be nice to offload the bikes for a day and get to see what the east coast has to offer without 50lbs of extra gear.

    Agree with the boots, I wear my tech's evrywhere, much to the spite of my wife, lol
  2. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    We'll take you up on that if we're over your way!

    I'd like to invite you over to the planning thread in the Canada regional forum. The more local knowledge we have, the better. Besides, it's kind of a fun thread, although not always topical. Sturgeon knows both the current Governor General and Red Green, so that keeps things fun.


  3. NB_CRF'er

    NB_CRF'er I got a job, I explore!

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    Great job on the ride report, brings new inspiration to take the bike to NFLD.
    Thanks for sharing!
  4. jackpiner57

    jackpiner57 Moto-Racks.com

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    Maybe I'll ride my new to me 1981 Yamaha XT250. Thanks Tim!!!:clap:freaky
  5. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    There's a repro rear fender on Ebay for that rig, Tom. It's not cheap, though. I'd spend my money on a rear shock, instead. Klaus over at YSS USA ought to be able to put one together for a reasonable price. Get 'er buttoned up and ride 'er. Everyone needs a riding classic in the stable, and that one has the potential to be pretty, and a lot of fun. When's the last time you rode a dual-sport you could flat-foot?

    I wouldn't be reluctant to bring a 250 to Newfoundland, even an old-school ride. There's not a lot of places to burn your hair off, so something that tops out at 70 mph will get you through. Light weight and good gas mileage would go far, so long as you kept the baggage down.

  6. jackpiner57

    jackpiner57 Moto-Racks.com

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    Yeah, that repro is a bit pricey. I saw a NOS one in the UK for less with shipping. I checked out YSS and they have good prices, thanks!

    The last time I was able to flat foot a dual sport was ........um.....NEVER! Well, except for my daughters CRF70F :lol3

    I'll work on getting her operating properly over the winter and see what we have at that point. I'm stoked to get this ol' girl on the road.
  7. vintagemxr

    vintagemxr old fahrt, nobody special

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    Sorry I didn't find this excellent RR a little sooner, it was a wonderful read. Back in May a romantic adventure took me to St. John's, NL and this old desert rat fell in love with Newfoundland and it's amazing people. In the two weeks I was there I met no one who wasn't very friendly and always helpful. It was an odd thing because Newfoundland is about as different from my state of Arizona as it can be but I felt at home there right from the start. I credit the wonderful Newfies for that. People from some parts of Canada use "Newfie" as a slight put down but the locals are proud of their nickname and rightly so, Newfoundland ain't for sissies.

    One of my favorite stories from the trip goes like this: I was driving down the freeway well outside of St. John's, my lovely hostess in the right seat, when we spotted a for real moose (cow) up ahead by the side of the freeway. My friend began saying excitedly "Stop! Stop! There's a MOOSE!!" I replied that we were doing 75 mph on the freeway and it seemed like the wrong time to pull over for game spotting. She replied "We love our moose! We always stop to watch them!"

    Sure enough the two cars ahead of me in the right lane slowed and pulled over for some moose viewing. As I was in the left lane and still going fast we zoomed on by Mrs. Bullwinkle. My friend seemed genuinely disappointed at the missed opportunity. I said "If you all love the moose so much why are you so keen to shoot them?" She replied with proper Newfie logic "Because they taste good!"

    I am hopeful about visiting Newfoundland a couple of times in the coming year both to see the lovely lady and to enjoy a very lovely land. I checked already and can't find any place to rent a motorcycle though. To explore there on road or off would be great fun.
  8. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    That's a very nice photo set, Doug. (Click the Newfoundland link.)

    I think the nearest place to rent a bike is near Halifax NS, and it isn't cheap -- $150 per day, or $1000 per week.

    Newfoundland Outdoor Adventures offers ATV tours on the T'railway and the branch lines, which are kind of expensive also ($200 for a four-hour tour, $300 for six hours). Not exactly biking, but it would get you into the backcountry. Sounds like they are amenable to two-up riding, if you wanted to make a day of it with the lovely lady.

    I've found that Newfoundlanders don't much take to the term "Newfie." They prefer "Newfoundlander." We won't get into the Bayman/Townie debate -- it gets Skibum69 all riled up.

  9. vintagemxr

    vintagemxr old fahrt, nobody special

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    Glad you enjoyed the photos, it was good fun getting those. As to the Newfie title, I guess context counts a lot and it depends on who's saying it and the intent. I've made some very good friends there beyond the lady in question and they all wear the Newfie label with pride and I've never gotten any negative feedback from them about it although I don't overuse it either and of course wouldn't direct it at a stranger.

    My lady friend is a St. John's Townie born and raised in a jelly bean house and her best friend is a Bayman (lady?) so I've heard the stories about that old rivalry. What struck me as most interesting is the huge difference in their accents although they grew up only a mile or two apart. My friend has a pleasant accent, very little really, while her friend's words are so thick I struggle to understand her half the time. For me the range of accents I heard in Newfoundland was great fun.

    When the Newfie-word thing first came up for me a couple of years ago (I knew about it in the past as I have relatives scattered across Canada and Dad was born there) I asked about it and my lady friend told me they know when someone means it as a term of affection and when someone means it otherwise. As for me, I'd be proud to be a Newfie if only by adoption. Stranger things have happened.

    Doug
  10. AteamNM

    AteamNM Wonna Be ADVrider

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    Just went through this great report, linked from

    The Somewhere Between: Part 1 - Fly and Ride

    Great report and thank you.

    Ateam
  11. supernewf71

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    I just got through the many pages of the ride and have to say, being born and raised in nfld, now relocated to Ontario. Your report makes me want to go home and enjoy the summer just exploring it. My father was from St. Anthony and the drive up the coast is a long haul but beautiful. I was up the last summer in the middle of July with my family and they loved it. Grew up in gander and miss it everyday. Thanks again for the awesome ride report.
  12. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    That's very kind of you to say! We enjoyed St. Anthony -- the gals at the Subway and Irving station were better than watching a comedy show. From my personal experience, if you have a place that fills a spot in your heart, it's good to go back when you can. Things are changing, and soon it may not be as you remembered it.

  13. Clipper

    Clipper Been here awhile

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    Canuman you have put together an awesome report! The photos, the narrative and I love the fact that you have done research on the history of this godforsaken rock thrust out in the North Atlantic :lol3 and tried to determine what makes us tick.

    Comments on the railway and Joe Smallwood were dead on. The history is pretty interesting and we are changing. Big oil offshore, the downturn in the fishery and the thousands of us who migrate to other parts of Canada for work have all impacted this place.

    My Dad is a townie and my Mom is bayman so I dont quite know what I am.....a mutt? :D

    I have had the opportunity to travel all over this island by road as well as sailing all around it and have also seen many of the places you have visited.

    My helmet is off to you! :clap Once again....a fabulous job!

    Happy New Year to you too.

    Clipper
  14. supernewf71

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    Next time head down to white bay and check out a hydro setup in cat arm. The road is rough and beautiful, an awesome park on a salmon river in a little town called sop's arm ( my mom's home town). Another awesome place to stay and just slow down and absorb life at its best.
  15. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    Hah! Funny you should mention that. I put together a route up there. It's going to be in the 2014 plan.

  16. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    Thanks. There's something about Newfoundland that sticks in one's soul.

    The first migrant Newfoundlander I met was an 80's punk (it was in the 80's, and I was in college) who had a fearful pink Mohawk and very bad skin. He'd left Newfoundland to work in the States, as so many did at that time.

    He was about 6'6" and maybe 150 lbs (I'll leave the metric math to you guys) and looked as if he'd been recently exhumed. He was a brilliant Chef -- I mean this guy was truly a master. Given an onion, a couple of potatoes, and a few other scraps of food, and he'd cook you a feast. I think it was his early training on the island in hard times. While other chefs at the time were making elaborate stuff with mangoes and shallots and all sorts of fancy sauces, he kept it simple and direct.

    He got a job at a very high-end hotel. It was the custom of the hotel to have the chef come out and hob-nob with the guests, but because of his fearsome appearance, they told him not to. He felt that he'd been done out of a perquisite.

    To get his due, when the kitchen closed, he'd take his Sous-Chef and ride the elevator with handfuls of tooth picks and breath mints. They'd offer them to the guests.

    "Tooth pick? Breath mint?"

    If you check into a five-star, you don't expect to ride the elevator at midnight with two guys in stained whites with demonic stares and weird hair who offer mints and toothpicks. They thought of it as a big old joke.

    We're all mutts in the eyes of the Lord, boy. Keep your humor.

    I wish I could remember the Chef's name.

  17. Southmt

    Southmt Been here awhile

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    Great writeup! I'd never thought much about Newfoundland before.... this really opened my eyes. Thanks for finding out so much about the place, and the people, the way of life. I appreciate it!
  18. Thermos

    Thermos Been here awhile

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    Just found this.

    Thank you for this report, as it just confirms I need to do this!

    -T
  19. RiderRick

    RiderRick Been here awhile

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    Thank you for the great report and pics guys, :clap:clap:clap:clap
  20. AdvRich

    AdvRich Parallel Reality

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    Pic from Canuman's post #24.
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    I've been doing some research for this year's ride to the area and got onto some info that may answer your question about the waterfall seen from the trail side campsite: Overfalls, near Trout River. More pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/iatnl/sets/72157625496727302/ and more info: http://www.iatnl.com/index.php/news/64/26/Overfall-Trail-completed-in-Gros-Morne-National-Park/
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