coming soon: the new Bordone Ferrari Rally bike

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  1. Brodovitch

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    No I think you were right the first time Troy, It looks like a support from the frame to hold the front part of the engine (check the first and third pics, it ends right in front of the ignition coil cover).

    So, what time is the damn presentation? All this speculating might be for naught if this isn't the final version :lol3
    (good way to kill a friday afternoon though)
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  2. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    I'd sure be nice to be there in person to check it out and dribble over it... :tb instead of our keyboards eh Brodo...? :rofl:rofl:rofl:lol3
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  3. Beez

    Beez Given to fly

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    I see what you are talking about now. It doesn't look like one downtube in front of the engine though but 2 downtubes on both sides of it. I don't think there is a cradle under it so the engine can just be dropped out the bottom for service.
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  4. Brodovitch

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    Hell yes :lol3

    I'm still banging my head against the wall after I passed on a chance to go do some promo work
    in Sardegna, I'm kidding myself that I could have probably blagged a presentation invite and stayed an extra day with some friends in Milan..

    but

    Rally Albania set my workflow back by about 2 weeks... struggling to catch up, and only making excuses to lurk on here :baldy
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  6. troy safari carpente

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  7. beaney

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    [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Trellis frame and TM engine[/SIZE][/SIZE]

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    [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Ferrari Motorcycle Italiana Bordone-E1 [/SIZE][/SIZE]

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  8. schattat

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    Am I blind or does this bike not have any headlights?
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  9. Brodovitch

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    and no kick starter.. though I can see the spline in the motor :huh

    the body work is beautiful, fluid, very compact for the claimed 32 litres it carries

    even the radiator scoops which were probably added to accommodate more sponsors -if for nothing else- bother me less now...

    Also can't tell if the skid plate accommodates water & tool box (it juts out to the front quite a bit)

    I wonder what internals the KYB fork has.

    so, the million dollar question...

    How much?

    :lol3
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  10. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    Lots of odd design choices, like the exhaust can being not tucked under the rear tank. One good slide on that side of the bike and the can will be ripped off. The rad shrouds...would have to see the bike but the rad looks unprotected and using a single seems an odd choice. As mentioned no kick start as well. Not saying bad designs as they likely know a ton more than I do, just some odd ones at a glance.

    Love the slick look though :nod

    When does it debut in a race ?
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  11. Carlos M

    Carlos M www.motoxplorers.com

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    The bike looks blind without the headlight. It's for daytime use only :D "With its superbly designed blah bla blah, it is made to arrive at each bivouac by early noon" the propaganda will claim :D

    It looks nice, nonetheless.
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  12. schattat

    schattat Long timer

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    Regardless, it still has to comply withthe international highway code, i.e. headlights, horn and yes, even a mirror :evil
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  13. Brodovitch

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    going back to the kick starter, I think someone fucked up the mold for the right hand tank...
    there's no indent when the kick-starter is folded in place

    typical designer going off and doing his own thing material :lol3

    Nit-picking aside, can't wait to see what the team do with the bike in the Pharaoh Rally

    :clap
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  14. Hausi1

    Hausi1 asd

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    Maybe they just forgot the headlight... Like when you're so focused on getting the details right that you forget something big... :D
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  15. Gian

    Gian dreamer

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    Be sure that after the first races a lot of details will change, it's normal:deal
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    :nod

    EGYPT RALLY (october) - Post race technical debriefing at B/F headquarters: :deal


    Team Chief (to technical director): "Okaaay... Luigi... Prego... you thinka we canna putta kickstarter onna da' bike now... eh? Jordi and Alex; they go through technical inspection in Egypt; no problemo...! :D And a she looooka soooooo sexy in alla da' magazine photo's... no? :clap

    ...but they still on podium trying to starta da' bike, eh...?" :brow :shog


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  17. Aussie66

    Aussie66 Been here awhile

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    Nit picking, the 690 never had a kickstarter either.
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  18. tHEtREV

    tHEtREV Captain Awesome... tEAM iDIOT.

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    Might be like the Rallye Pan Am 525s with the 660 Rallye tanks and have a kick starter stashed somewhere on them just in case (from memory, in Neduros rallye bike rehab thread, they did it that way because the 660 tanks didn't have the cut out in the tank as the LC4 is a left kicker.)

    The bike is growing on me though.
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  19. tehdutchie

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    Loving it more and more..

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    trellis frame indeed.
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