Compact tractors

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by R.J., Aug 28, 2010.

  1. oj may

    oj may Have bike, will travel.

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    I have a DR mower, 17 hp, chains, blade, chipper, 42" finish and 30" brush deck. I still use it a lot, even after buying a Kubota BX25 a year ago May.

    The DR can do some amazing things, but it is a slower go at most jobs than the tractor. It will 'mow' over 1.5" trees and cut 6' tall grass and brush. It chips up to 4" branches.
  2. CodeMonkee

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    Hmmmm....

    The cost of even the used mini track loaders is at least twice to three times that of a new 2 wheeled tractor. For the difference in cost I could rent a skid steer several times a year for a number of years and still come out ahead.
  3. oj may

    oj may Have bike, will travel.

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    After 2 seasons of using the backhoe with a 12" bucket, I am thinking that a ripper tooth in place of the bucket is the way to go for stump removal. I am hoping there is a lot less back filling and it should tear through the larger roots much easier and make it less work to get the larger stumps out. Your thoughts?
  4. Adam E

    Adam E halfway there

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    If a ripper tooth is the same as we call a "frost tooth" it will in fact rip through things easier than a bucket, but it still has it's limits. If you want to work on stumps you may get frustrated by the fact that you can't angle the tooth under the stump, unless you have a wrist.

    There are other benefits to this setup as well- if you had to dig a shallow trench for something like an invisible fence, or a direct bury electrical cable, you'll find a tooth does a pretty sweet job and makes less mess.
  5. oj may

    oj may Have bike, will travel.

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    I did buy a 'ripper/frost' tooth. I also got a 'thumb' for the back hoe boom.

    I purchased them from Bro-Tek. This company makes many products specifically for my Kubota model.

    Next, I am going to fashion some home made forks for brush and light pallet duty. I can't wait for the ground to firm up, there is work to do.
  6. FPGT72

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    Well my good ole JD650 has bought the farm so to speak, and now I am looking for something along those same lines.
    Just an internet pic but this is the 650:
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    Anyone have experience with the JD 1 series machines. I do not need a big machine, just mow, move gravel, normal live in the country on 20ac type stuff.
    Another internet pic of the 1 series...and that is about how I would want it setup...and perhaps a pto wood chipper.
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    I currently have two riding lawn mowers for around the house. I mow the field with a 8n and brush hog, this is going to be for the front "yard" about 10-ac or so.

    Not really interested in a zero turn, want a machine that can do more than just mow.....thinking about getting the back hoe attachment, I could really use that for clearing an old fence line of barb wire and black locust trees....lots of trees.

    Thoughts on that machine, or other machines like it?
  7. Adam E

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    Are you really planning on mowing 10 acres with it or did I misunderstand you?

    My father in law has a similar sized machine, mows a fairly open 2+ acre area with it and it takes several hours. No way would I want to do 10 acres with a machine that small.
  8. FPGT72

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    I did the back yard last night...about 8ac or so on the 8n just flat not the tree parts, and it took me about 2hrs or there about. The front yard...and I will just call them yards. Is about the same, on the 650 it took about the same time....I think it had a 72" deck...can't remember for sure. We have not mowed but perhaps 1ac of it and let the rest go to be bailed by the next door neighbor....we usually don't do that.....but I don't remember it taking an insane amount of time to do.

    Really interested in the backhoe and bucket attachments, going to dig out tree stumps, move gravel around....work on some drainage ditches....work on the banks of the pond....that kind of thing.

    Really leaning to this machine over the BX machines because of how easy the attachments seem to go on and come off, also the 650 had a Yanmar engine and it was very thrifty on the fuel.
  9. tommu56

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    I have a BX23 and couldn't be happier.

    In my opinion the drive on decks are one more maintenance headache.
    How often do you plan on switching attachments?

    I only switch a couple times a year (I admit the 23 has a better BH attachment the 24,25`s) after you do a couple hook-ups it will be easier. YMMV. Use the hydraulic`s to do work not your. braun

    Try the seating position I'm a big guy and just fit "in" the cockpit. That's one thing I never though about when looking.

    Tom

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  10. Mendodave

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    that is what I want, for my 3 acres of woods and lawn. I can't justify it as of yet, I've no place to put it! There is one locally (40 miles away) with 350 hours, $14k. That seems high. It has the FEL and BH. My lawn is not big enough to require the mower, but a box scraper could come in handy.

    I can't just spend that $$ and have it rust outside all winter.

    sigh.

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  11. Srbenda

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    I have a BX22, and paid about $7k with 700 hours.
    I have a FEL and 60" MMM. Great little machine.
    Sometimes I have been limited by the overall lifting capacity for boulders and logs, but generally, I can do so much more than I could previously.

    Great little tractors.
  12. FPGT72

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    I have looked hard at the BX, Can you tell me how the drive over deck is a headache?

    I have a feeling that the backhoe will be off and on quite often, have a great deal of small-ish stumps to dig up, and a great deal of trees to clear. Thinking of a PTO chipper to do something....anything with all those trees over just burn them....so I think after a good pile gets made the backhoe will come off and the chipper will go on.

    I know when pulling the deck off the 650 is a supreme bitch. Thing weighs like 300lbs and I have to use my lift to raise the front of the tractor to get it out from under it....totally sucks.
  13. tommu56

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    My the drive on part is no problem is it the quick shaft attachment? one more piece to fail in my opinion.

    I really wanted to go green when I bought mine but the way the 23's seat swivels around was a plus and the hoe is mounted differently tight to the frame not hung on the 3 point like a lot of tractors my old neighbor had a old 8n with 3 point backhoe and it was a bear to hook up and it had broken the mounts some point in its life frame mounted or sub frame hoe is the only way to go sub frame ususlly means deck has to come off to clear frame.

    Then I am in the tractor is a tool to use and any thing that makes more connections and joints is more prone to brake.

    why do you need to take the deck off to use the back hoe?

    my lawn is not golf course type I only take the hoe off when I need the 3 point 1-2 times a year
  14. FPGT72

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    It was just a comment on how hard it was to take the deck off the 650, I know the Kubota is suppose to be easy....but the JD just looked...More easy :)

    Plus I have a pretty bad back,neck,arm. And if I am going to stay on my property I need to work smarter not harder. The BX was just a little harder for me to get on, a little taller. Also the seat felt less good to me. I am really sold on the Yanmar engine, I know Kubota makes a good diesel but I only have experience with this, and I know this tractor will run and mow 8hrs at a pretty heavy load on 1/4 tank of gas.

    I usually mow the front and let the back go, this year I did the opposite. One neighbor bailed the back, the one that was to do the front bailed on me...so now it is TALL_TALL. The part that got bailed (and that is not all of it) gave 314 square bails....and he was commenting on just how thick it was. IIRC the last time the front was bailed it gave 42 round bails. Remember the size of the land, entire thing is on 13a, and I would bet that about 5-6 are not useable, very bumpy and overgrown. Old cow area and you really can't even walk back there...thoughts have been for years to get a tiller and just hit the entire area and let it smooth itself out....just never had a machine that could run a big tiller.

    I will likely make the buy next month, not sure I think both JD and Kubota run fall specials. Also looked at New Holland (nothing really there) and Mahindra...don't have a good feeling there, friend has a bigger Mahindra and he has had problems....you can have problems with anything, but just not a good feeling there.

    It will be a BX or 1series, I really think it will spend about as much time mowing as it will digging.
  15. Claybuster

    Claybuster Been here awhile

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    While shopping and gathering info back in 06, many people said to avoid mid mount mowers unless mowing was the primary use. Even the dealer talked me out of the on-ramp setup.

    I ended up with a JD3520, 3pt 6 ft finish mower, and it works great. If you are looking for golf course finish, it may not work for you. But, over the years, mowing has become secondary, compared to all the other jobs the tractor does. I spend quite a bit of time in the woods cutting wood, dragging logs clearing brush, tilling food plots and I'm happy I don't have to screw around with a MMM.

    My recommendations, decide on how versital the machine needs to be and size the chassis accordingly. Then get the most hp and loader capacity in that chassis.

    I'm happy with my 3000 series, but should have got the 3720. As well as the larger loader.

    I'd also really recommend the quick attach loader. It's nice to mow and spray without the loader on.

    Also, gotta have pallet forks.
  16. Mendodave

    Mendodave Road Scholar

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    I can get the local BX-23 for $14k + tax, delivered. Total $15057.
    no place to store it, but I can make something.

    damn!

    that is half of what I have left of my inheritance from my mother, seems prudent to keep that in the bank..

    Mendo
  17. FPGT72

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    I wish it was local to me....been looking at tractor house for a few weeks....around 14 seems to be the going price for a BX25 with a bucket and a back hoe.....and I want that back hoe. Just need to find one I don't have to drive 200+ miles to go get.
  18. Mendodave

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    :D

    delivered today. outside my window...but its dark

    wow. that is one badass little tractor

    Mendo

  19. Mendodave

    Mendodave Road Scholar

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    lots over there, but shipping to CA is out.

    mendo
  20. Mendodave

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    pretty tough little tractor, put it to work over the weekend skidding out logs and loading rounds into trucks.

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