Confused; City Nav 2008 Update CD

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by CaptainMorgan, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. CaptainMorgan

    CaptainMorgan Been here awhile

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    Recieved my MapSource City Navigator Nt north America 2008 update cd about 2 months ago from Garmin... went to the site and got it for free. Finally had a chance tonight to load cd onto my computer.... what the hell... loads but maps are locked and they want me to pay $69 or $70 bucks for the unlock codes....

    now if I remember when I sent in for the cd I thought the update was free? Why would they sent me a free cd several months ago and now when I try to put on my computer I need to pay $$$ for unlock codes...

    Please tell me I'm clueless and missing something....

    I'm going to call garmin in the morning..... garmin update cd came in brown evelope with cd inside but with no codes or anything???

    Please give me some info...
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  2. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    You're clueless and missing something.:evil In your description of the issue for starters....

    Did you recently buy a GPS, after the release date for CN8, and therefore were allowed a free upgrade to the latest map data? If so, you should have gotten an unlock code. It would likely have been between the cardboard of the plastic packaging the disc case came in.

    If you just have an old unit and wanted to upgrade map data, it's not free. You get to pay for it like everyone else.

    HTH

    Dave
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  3. tvnav

    tvnav Been here awhile

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    What GPS did you order it for?
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  4. kurt1305

    kurt1305 Been here awhile

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    My unlock code was on a green sticker on the CD case.
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  5. CaptainMorgan

    CaptainMorgan Been here awhile

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    talked with Garmin and they sent me the wrong CD. It's a regional update CD??? None the less I have to go to Bes Buy or CC and buy an update cd for $70 bucks or so and it will have the unlock codes.

    GPS is a BMW Navigator III.
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  6. PirateT7

    PirateT7 Back on Two Wheels

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    I hope you don't mind if I jack the thread for one quick question - when you unlock the CD, does it tie to that computer or to that GPS? I've got a couple different computers, can I install everything on one, load up the GPS, then move the software to a different computer?
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  7. mcnut

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    My understanding is the software is associated to the GPS. You can install it on any number of CPUs.

    MCNut
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  8. PirateT7

    PirateT7 Back on Two Wheels

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    Thanks (now I can continue setting up my new Christmas present :D)

    we now return you to your regurally-scheduled thread...
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  9. wheelnut46

    wheelnut46 Been here awhile

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    Yes that is correct. It is tied to the GPS. You can load it onto many computers but only one GPS.
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  10. White Knuckles

    White Knuckles Insufficient memory

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    Each computer will ask for the unlock code.
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  11. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    And all you have to do is save it from the first one into a file, and then copy that file onto each of the other computers. Install it, and that will allow you to download the maps. No problem.
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  12. PirateT7

    PirateT7 Back on Two Wheels

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    thanks, guys.

    Captain, did you get your Map disc?
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  13. GODSPEED

    GODSPEED finger lickin' good

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    So you are telling me that if my family has 3 Garmin GPS's, I would have to buy map's for each unit? If so, that is BS.
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  14. JR356

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    You may think it's BS,but that is Garmins new strategy.
    Used to be able to unlock maps to 2 GPS units,that option went away
    around June of this year.

    Wish they would at least offer a multiuser or a family pack such
    as is available on computer operating systems/programs.

    For now,you will have to play Garmins game,or go to another sandbox!


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  15. markjenn

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    Do you have an official City Nav version for your computer? If so, then the process for map database updates is to have Garmin send you an update DVD for free. But after you load it, you have to pay the update fee online, typically $75 or so. If you go to a retail store, my guess is that they don't have update DVD's - they'll sell you a brand new full version, not the update version.

    Map database updates are not generally free. The exception is if you bought the the new map database recently, either bundled with a GPS or separately - there is a grace period of free updates, although I think it varies with the product.

    MapSource updates (the program that loads the map database, does trip planning, and copies stuff to your GPS) are free and available online.

    Some GPSs that have bundled map databases include rights to the PC version, some don't.

    Garmin used to give two unlock codes per database so you can use it on two GPS's, but this has changed to one recently. If you're updating from older versions you sometimes are "grandfathered in" to have two licenses. I'm using CN 2008 for two GPS's, but that's because my previous City Select V5 and V7 licenses allowed two GPS's.

    Don't throw away the update DVD. It may be the right thing after all.

    - Mark
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  16. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    No - from some other info out there, that's Navteq. They are the ones that own the map data and license it to Garmin.

    Now how much Garmin negotiated is anybody's guess. But remember when the map datum used to be unlocked? Just look at all of the illegal copies that show up on ebay.

    Not saying I like it, but it's the cost to play the game.

    I only update once every few years anyhow. Not that many new roads out there I need to have on my GPS. Takes a few years to build them.


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  17. GODSPEED

    GODSPEED finger lickin' good

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    I can understand protecting the map data, but come on, haven't they ever heard of a multi-user license. They could base it on registered units.
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  18. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    Well, if they offered a five-unit license, then we'd have a thread on here coordinating the purchase of it and the sale/distribution of the keys to four other people.

    And this licensing system is already complicated enough.

    That being said, I thought the two-unit license was restrictive enough and requiring one person to spend $200+ to use a database on two GPSs is greedy. And it has the effect of discouraging customers to buy multiple units at a time when the units are getting cheaper and more specialized.

    Garmin is an impressive hardware builder but I don't think their software is up to their hardware.

    - Mark
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  19. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    Sure have. Garmin sells them for $75 a piece.:rofl :rofl

    Hey - all kidding aside - I'm not defending them, I'm just telling it how it is.

    When I get my new 60cx, I'm going to see if I can't unlock it with my old version of CS that allowed two unlocks. I don't need the latest and greatest when I'm out in the woods, but it would be nice to be able to find a nearby gas station.:thumb

    Dave
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