Converted to dual-sport? POST PICS!!

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by Sinistersculler, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Deadly

    Deadly Asphalt Adventurer!

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    Most of the weight is displaced between two wheels NOT one, so the 468 lb weight capacity will easliy work for your situation even with you and luggage on board.
  2. timdog

    timdog a.k.a. Josh

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    What about mounting tube type tires on tubeless rims? Can this cause a problem?
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    roadhamr Been here awhile

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    front fork set up changes are very easy and if you need too also purchase a manual and it will give you step by step instructions on rebuilding the front forks, rplacing seals and fluid. getting longer tubes made up is not a big deal at all. doing this will drastically change how the bike handles as will jacking up the rear end. what ever changes you make you should make on both ends so it has a balance. i would think that if it was only mild off of road riding you were doing then ground clearance probably wont be an issue and the bikes balance would be more important.

    measure with a caliper the inside diameter of your forks. if you can find some abs plastic pipe that will fit in to it with some clearance. find washers that easily cover both ends and fit in the fork tubes as well. make nice square cuts and start at about 2 inches and add them to the tops of the springs. the plastic pipe sanwiched by the washers. it will add some rigidity to front end. thi smay be all you need. keep increasing the length of the pipe until you have the desired effect. even if you get lengthened tubes you will still need to do this as you will be swapping over the internals of your forks. progressive suspension( and others) have lots of rear shock replacements available. i wonder if you got to know your local bike scrap guy if he would let you try to find a replacement wheel that is 17 inches? that would fit? stock rear shocks on most bikes of the 80's were pretty poor from day one so i would replace them. lifting the bike could be a bad decision as bikes from the 80's were notoriously top heavy so raising them up would make this condition worse and may make the bike difficult to ride with any control which is way more important than any ground clearance issue. just a thought.
  4. ZappBranigan

    ZappBranigan Been here awhile

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    I'm not sure why it would. I've gone the other way - mounted tubeless tires on a bike that required tubes (my Thunderbird with its spoked wheels.)

    Worst case scenario, throw a tube in it. The wheels are cast, I don't know why they wouldn't support a tube...:shrug
  5. roadhamr

    roadhamr Been here awhile

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    josh i am not sure it would matter at all. i would check with my local dealer they will be able to give you a better answer. ask where you buy the tires. they are the tire professionals they should know best.
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    ZappBranigan Been here awhile

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    As my bike is a shafty I don't think that would be practical (read: Cost effective.)
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    roadhamr Been here awhile

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    you could also if you develop a relationship with your wrecker try a few different stock forks off of a few bikes. again take a measure of your forks outer diameter and length and then go and check a few out at the the wrecking yard see if you can find anything. when i lived out west i used to take stuff home and try to fit it and if it did i would buy it and return the stuff that didnt. i removed the parts myself and then cataloged them for the guy so he got a pretty good deal and i got the parts i wanted and i tried out some others as well.
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    roadhamr Been here awhile

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    why? if you were to find a wheel that came off of another shaft driven bike that shared the same output shaft specs, which there is a good chance with kawi stuff you will. and mounted the same way but gave you the wheel size you were looking for why wouldnt you buy it and why wouldnt he sell it to you. these old bike parts are not expensive used. they have already been sitting around for awhile. anyways it is just a suggestion.
  9. Deadly

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    I have no idea. :dunno
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    ZappBranigan Been here awhile

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    I understand and I appreciate the advice. Just remember I'm trying to keep this as cheap and simple as possible. The bike is basically a "beater" that I got 2 years ago for $800. It's served me well but I'll probably get a nicer bike soon (looking at a Triumph Scrambler.) My thought was that since some of these parts need replacing anyway (tires, shocks, fork seals, etc) it might be fun to do a mild "dual sport" conversion in much the way that Deadly's Nighthawk was done. Anything that requires a lot of effort or a lot of money would sort of defeat the whole purpose of my exercise.

    Honestly, tires and new fork springs and rear shocks would probably do everything I need to do. After that, I can just rattlecan the tank, side covers and fenders in flat black for the "lone biker of the apocalypse" look and leave it at that. :D
  11. timdog

    timdog a.k.a. Josh

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    That's where I am at also. I paid $1000 for the bike. I don't want to spend a lot of money trying to make it into a Triumph Scrambler. I am reluctant to even spend money on tires, because the street tires that are on it are in pretty good shape.
  12. Willis24

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    This old KZ is featured somewhere here on ADV
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    that sounds good too. just ideas man that is what this thread is all about. i am thinking of doing a mild dual sport conversion on a 1981 gs1100e. i have been kicking around optionsand looking for a donor bike. keep this thread alive it gets me going! more pics pls!
  14. Round-I-Go

    Round-I-Go I won the Pullet Surprise

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    I don't think this is a problem at all, though I haven't done it myself. The problem is tubeless tires on spoke rims that are not sealed. With tubes, it shouldn't matter either way because the tubes do the sealing.
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    xDownSetx U WOT M8?

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    Maybe I'll move my TKC's to my gs and have a plate welded to the headers:lol3

    Will deff. need to replace the stock suspension and block off the anti dive units.
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    timdog a.k.a. Josh

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    I have never ridden a bike with an anti dive front end off road. What will it do?
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    apeirce So I was following Andrew

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    I'm still getting my head around some of these. I've always been of the camp to start with something small and light and see what can be done to make them street legal, not the other way around.

    I love the creativity and that fact that people will try things, so big admiration for that.

    Y'all should look to hillclimb bikes for inspiration.

    Here a BMW 800 twin with 2wd:

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    http://www.gizmag.com/bmw-2wd/9619/
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  19. Beerslayer

    Beerslayer Journeyman Bike Knocker

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    Nice! I have always wanted a Valkyrie. I was thinking to put knobbies on one so that I don't need to stop where the gravel starts. I have seen some ratted out Goldwings that gave me the idea.

    Do you run only street tires on your Valk?
  20. ~wsrock~

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    No knobby tires shown here but lots of gravel roads and snowy mountain passes underfoot in North America and all over Europe. An R850R Atlanta with a bunch of GS 1100 goodies added on. Custom rear rack for the GS trunk, GS bash plate, custom steel fog lamp brackets, 3-steel camera mounts, GS hand guards, raised seat, tweaked rear shock, dual 12v outlets for heated gear, remote mounted power fore and aft, heated grips, and more. Single track, no. Fire roads, no. 80% of the terrain in the ride report section, yes. Decent ground clearance. 2-up fine for weeks at a time. Ride with buddies' DL650, 950 Adventure, and a GS1200 fine. Lead the pack of local Ducati's and R1's in show-and-tell-follow-me-routes. So I guess by default dual sporting in a broad way. Probably weighs the same as a GSA1200.

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