Cop shoots rider in back during traffic stop.

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Midnightventure, May 16, 2010.

  1. DAKEZ

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    You are wrong. It was a felony stop on a dark rural road. Why they felt the need to have 6 there I know not? Perhaps there just happened to be that many in the vicinity?

    It was indeed a misunderstanding due to my Wife having reported the car stolen a few weeks earlier when a parking garage in Seattle had misplaced it. It was located the next day on the top floor of the garage sitting behind a van but the misses failed to rescind the stolen car report.

    I like LEO's and am always respectful when stopped. :deal I have been "let go with a warning" more times than I can remember because I always address them in a professional and genial manner. :D

    In this instance the Wife was there with me so after a brief moment of tension... being searched and cuffed the matter was cleared up.
  2. sandsman

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    I was stopped at night, wearing all black leathers on my LOUD cruiser. They thought I was gonna run, I think, but I pulled right over. I waited till they (2 HiPos) were up to me before I got off of the bike. First thing that I told them was I was a CHL holder and was carrying at this time. Officer asked me where it was, I said in my vest right beside my wallet. He asked I he could take possesion of my weapon, I said yes. I don't know at that point if I could have refused since I was legal to carry it. But I wasn't in the arguing mood. He went and ran my handgun to see if it was stolen, and I knew that it wasn't. Then I asked the other officer could I get my id out because it was where my pistol had been. I have a front zipper pistol pocket on my vest. Long story short, they just gave me a warning and handed back my pistol, totally unloaded, every shell out of the clip.....I was like "what the heck"? Then one says, "can you wait til we leave before you reload it?". Just another inconveinence......ugh. What was I gonna do at that point? I should have handed it back to him and asked him to give it back in the condition he took it in.
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    I was stopped in a Mustang GT, tinted windows, driving around a residential snobby neighborhood on a Sunday morning, looking for a car dealership that had a Volvo 240 for sale.

    Anyway, I got pulled over before finding the dealer. 2 very nice lady cops, one was very hot. I had not been pulled since getting a carry permit, so I put both hands out the window, said I got a carry permit, and asked "what do you want me to do"?

    They split up, one on each side of the car, and said "come on out, we'll hold your gun until we see your permit". I didn't have a problem. They even frisked me, got my paperwork, and about 30 seconds later they were gone.

    No biggie...

    Barry
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    Now it's my turn to mis-understand. I read it as six events, not six cops at once. Apologies.
  5. randyo

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    LEO's signed on for the hazardous duty when they accepted the job
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    STUFF2C We Ain't Left Yet!!

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    Really! why would you mention that unless there was a reason later in the stop? like when you where out of the car handcuffed. You don't carry your gun in plain view on the seat or on your person while your driving around, do you?

    I've been stopped a bunch of times and had my gun in the car or on the bike and never even mentioned it. NOW if they had a reason to go though my chit then i would have mentioned it.

    Those two lady cops probably had a pretty good little chuckle later over a donut or two.



  8. Kafn8td

    Kafn8td Been here awhile

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    Some states require you to tell an officer if you have a permit and are carrying.:deal
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    Agree... but they can do what they need to do to mitigate that, within reason. In the video, it appeared there was zero need for that officer to point his weapon at the rider, and NO reason for him to have his finger on the trigger, thus negating the accidental discharge, IF it was accidental. From the video I am not sure that shooting was unintentional.

    Barry
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    STUFF2C We Ain't Left Yet!!

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  11. Kafn8td

    Kafn8td Been here awhile

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    STUFF2C We Ain't Left Yet!!

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    lets ALL send it to the national news guys... ABC NBC CBS FOX CNN MSNBC it's kinda slow, news wise. they may jump all over it.
  13. DAKEZ

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    :rofl Nope. Outside of speeding (in a reasonable and prudent manner) 99% of the time while riding, I am generally a law abiding type of guy. :D

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  14. DAKEZ

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    "Some states require CCW holders to notify police they are armed on contact with them." (Alaska, North Carolina, Oklahoma, California, Nebraska, Michigan, Arkansas....
    http://www.google.com/cse?cx=005335441342025549106%3Af31yeopyb7a&cof=FORID%3A0&q=informing+law+enforcement&sa=Search+Handgunlaw.us#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=informing%20law%20enforcement&gsc.page=4

    Common sense:
    https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ccm-columns/features/handling-police-and-armed-citizen-encounters/
  15. Barry

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    Just so we all start out on the right foot during a traffic stop I let them know. I don't do the hands out the window anymore, but I figure it is a courtesy to let them know I'm armed.

    Also like when I am NOT armed, if something I need is in a bag, under a jacket or in the glove box, I tell them where it is before I go reaching. Makes them feel nice and safe, which makes me feel nice and safe.

    Barry
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    Massad Ayoob suggests thre is a better way to do it. He (being a 30 year veteran LEO) recommends the best and most legally proper way to notify is to calmly hand your DL and CCW together to the LEO when they come up to your window. Then if they ask if you have it you say yes and tell them where it is. The idea is that if you yell I GOT A PERMIT and wave your hands out the window, your going to get them all nervous. Stay calm, act like a professional, and the the cop will too.
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    In VA they run your license and it comes up with the data that you have a permit to carry. So they know. They just don't know IF you have it with you.

    And that is a lot of assuming on your part about me, I tend not to yell at police officers.

    Barry
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    In NH your are not obligated to tell the LEO that you are carrying....I don't know if it shows up that you have a CCL when they run your driver license. I have never been asked and I have never offered the information. If I am asked to get out or off the vehicle and I was carrying then I would let him know before I got out....but for a routine stop...sorry not telling them...why complicate things more than it needs to be.

    You should know the laws of the state your in...many states do require you to inform the LEO.....
  19. GI_JO_NATHAN

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    This is how I am as well.
    I'm usually in a hurry if I get pulled over, hence the speeding, so I don't want to complicate things.
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