Corroded R1200GSA at 10,000 miles and 18 months P*LE of Cr*P

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by we11ington, Apr 21, 2017 at 6:20 AM.

  1. we11ington

    we11ington n00b

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    Guys, After years of BMWs this one is breaking my heart. The build quality is just VILE. The paint on the rear sub-frame is thinner than Graphene. it has all but fallen off on the left side. The rear wheel is so badly pitted while the front is fine... And that old favourite... corrosion on the final drive at the rubber gaiter. take a look at the pics.. Bear in mind that there has already been THOUSANDS of pounds spent under warranty for .. new exhaust manifold, Engine work, new calipers, discs, pad all round due to total seizure. have a look at the crappy bolts used to mount a STAINLESS carrier.. What are these guys thinking? I am so disappointed in this

    https://1drv.ms/f/s!AvMpGiZ9Ach3h401S0alQUlCrdFRdg
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  2. s4awd

    s4awd Anywhere but here.

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    Wow. That's scary. Do you live next to the water or seaside area? Now i'm going to have to spray my bike with corrosion-x ugh
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  3. mgdavis

    mgdavis Been here awhile

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    Are there enviromental factors that helped this situation develop? Perhaps you store it outside next to the ocean?
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  4. we11ington

    we11ington n00b

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    Hi, I live is Scotland so yes you could say that... However, one winter shouldn't do this to any bike. My last seven bikes didn't do this... In short its down to badly painted and choice of materials here.. The FRONT sub frame is powder coated and is perfect. the rear sub frame is badly painted on ONE side and the other is fine.. I expect the guy was in a rush and didn't turn the thing around as he painted it...
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  5. mtrdrms

    mtrdrms Been here awhile

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    Yeah, that's pretty bad. Warranteeable?
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  6. Versys_User

    Versys_User Can I Change My User ID? LOL

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    That sucks :(
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  7. we11ington

    we11ington n00b

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    AAAAAANNNNNNDDDD I ride this to work everyday for a round trip of 40 miles. when at work its in an underground car park and when I am at home it is in a dry garage....
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  8. we11ington

    we11ington n00b

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    I am having a little argument about that at the moment... I will let you all know how it turns out.. Unsurprisingly BMW and the dealer are saying its been "badly treated" However, when you look at one side compared to the other that got exactly the same treatment that wouldn't stand up in court. I will let you guys know what happens. at the moment I am about to reject it and want a new bike in exchange..
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  9. redpaso

    redpaso Twin lover

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    Wow that's bad. I have a 1983 R100 in my shed I am restoring that did spend 6 years idle only 50m from the beach & it is in better condition than that. BMW definitely owe you a new bike. They should not want any 18month old machine in public like that.


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  10. taz_va

    taz_va Long timer

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    I'm not sure how the courts work over there, but I'd have my lawyer send them official notice they will be seen in court. Around here, if that much warranty work has already occurred and there yet remains issue, most state laws require the OEM to take the bike back and provide you with a brand new one.

    I'm not gonna lie brother, that looks like a junkyard bike. Pains me to say it.
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  11. 633squadron

    633squadron weenie

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    Hard to explain why the front is in great shape, but the rear isn't. Half in the garage and half out?! Americans would say "Stand your ground." Dunno know what the Scots would say.
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  12. Climb2Safety

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    I had something similar happen to my R1200GSA(w).

    The shaft within the final drive rusted out, the splines stripped, and left me for dead in the desert.

    The tech who looked at the bike accused me of pressure-washing the bike--as if I was dumb enough to point the wand directly at the rubber boot, allowing water to get in. There was no signs the rubber was punctured.

    BMW wasn't that helpful, but they did give me some assistance. It just required a lot of complaining--a lot of phone calls.
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  13. CJ3Flyer

    CJ3Flyer Long timer

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    Is the bike a '15 or '16?

    I have read of this before and like you it was in Great Britain. I think some recourse was had. Ukgser forum is where I think I saw it... Maybe I am confusing forums but there was another one that looked similar about a year ago I think.
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  14. ErikMotoMan

    ErikMotoMan My ATTGATT includes the HELITE Airbag vest.

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    Moisture and salt. Acidic. Will destroy anything. You mentioned a whole list of other parts already replaced under warranty, why were they replaced?

    I will grant you that some of the bolts and other parts that BMW has chosen to use are coated with this grayish substance that allows them to rust. The 'stainless' used by BMW certainly isn't. As evidenced by your muffler and the brake rotors below. These pics I took specifically to document my statement on this issue, the bike is a 2008 HP2 Megamoto with less than 10,000 miles. However, it resides in Santa Monica, garaged less than a mile from the ocean. The corrosion is without question caused by the salt air. The solution here, as you can clearly see, is to replace with stain less steel. IMG_6101.JPG

    Below, corrosion is evident on the cooling fins on the crank case.


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    Having said that, and having lived in a climate very similar to yours, where expensive cars would rust away in just 5 years, it is incumbent upon the owner, to maintain, clean and mitigate damage. I'm shocked to see how badly corroded your bike is, but would voice the (undoubtedly unpopular) opinion that your bike also bears the marks of neglect. This damage did not happen overnight.
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  15. rattis

    rattis Long timer

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    Yep, same shit with my 2014, rear frame is painted with watercolours, and of course you maltreat your bike!
    You use it, I probably bought my last BMW, the paint wore off the frame where my pants rub it riding home from the dealer, about 120 km.
    Honestly BMW, you should be ashamed, my daughters old 650's paint was in better knick, also on my 2007 KTM 990 that has been to Ushuaia and back.
    The dealer does not give a shit once he's got your money, I did get a new rear subframe, or a repainted one, but the coat is very very thin.
    As the OP wrote, as graphen.
    Thank dog that the rest of the bike is nice.
    Ah yes the neglect aspect rears it's ugly face, do you keep your bike in a climate controlled garage?
    Do you wash it with dew drops collected from Zugspitze by Bavarian maidens clad in shimmering samite and shit like that.
    If my garage is so shitty and does not have climate control, WHY does not my KTMs rust, nor my XChallenge.
    This is 2017, not some seventies shit cars that due to bad materials and environmentally friendly paints would rust away in the blink of an eye.
    Use the knowledge you've gained.
    Why does not my Volvo rust?
    It's outside each and every day and I live 2 km from the ocean.
    Can BMW spray their cars with paint that won't fall off when a butterfly flaps it's wings why cant the same procedure be used on the bikes?
    Imagine going on an adventure and leaving you bike on the outside where there's weather and terrible shit like that.
    I know haters will hate me.
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  16. rattis

    rattis Long timer

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    I would be very careful using stainless steel bolts because, stainless steel and aluminium do not go well together, corrosion
    Also the tensile strength of ordinary stainless bolts is lower than carbo steel bolts
    Alos moisture and salt make for galvanic corrosion, where does the acid come in?
    Acid rain, LSD?


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  17. Steve W.

    Steve W. Boxer Pilot

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    I think every product bmw uses now is bio degradable. IE the wiring harness on my 1150. I'm kinda done with them, after the 1150.
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  18. Dogslobber

    Dogslobber Been here awhile

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    Yep, better jump ship! None of the other bike companies in the world have any problems.:loco
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  19. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Ever notice how the UK guys have serious corrosion issues, and the Aussies can break anything? :lol3
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  20. Scubawerx

    Scubawerx Scubawerx

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    And a BMW is the common denominator.
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