Corvallis ADV Night at Flat Tail

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by KillerD, Jan 10, 2014.

  1. DiggerD

    DiggerD DougFir from SuperDuke Days

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    Wow...I would like to apologize to any and all who I have ever offended.

    No worry for others who I might offend on ADV night, because you will not see me there again on ADV night. Other times, damn right I will still show face.

    Trip, I am going to enjoy our meet up.

    No worry about me mis leading new bees by post in the PNWet. Done with that.

    Larry, we got to talk. WTF. (Thanks for your PM Larry)
  2. oldmonkeybut

    oldmonkeybut Digital Emigrant

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    Wow! I thought it was just me. I tried Flat Tail a few times before I gave up (slow learner). I'm an old fart and felt like I was imposing on the Millennial Turf. Kinda the same feeling as dragging a dead animal into a PETA convention. I wish them no ill will and the greatest of success. Please don't take this as a negative review. Draw your own conclusion, Ride your own ride.

    My experiences had nothing to do with any ADV inmate. I have never met the proprieter. When I spend money somewhere I expect the people recieving it to act like they appreciate it. Not like I'm interrupting something they would rather be doing.
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  3. Trip Hammer

    Trip Hammer It's not the years, it's the mileage

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    Ha! Well, I'm in the age demographic of their customers (roughly) and I actually enjoyed a couple of pints there. It's the shitty attitude of Killer and Digger that's turned me off of the place. Plenty of good breweries to choose from though. It's crazy because this thread initially was an attempt to bring in the ADV crowd.
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  4. CrackedCanyon

    CrackedCanyon Been here awhile

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    I’d like to ask that we all step back a bit and remember why we’re here on this thread. The strength of this thread is that it is intended for a group of people who actually know each other in real life.

    I’ve known Digger in person for a few years as a part of our Flat Tail group. I think most of us in the FT group would agree that in person, he’s a good sort, with lots of knowledge and good stories to share. As for KillerD, he’s the young rock star of our group, and you will not hear any criticism of him from any of us who know him.

    So here are a some requests I’d like to make:

    Digger, if you’re still listening, don’t give up on us quite yet - I hope I’ll continue to see you at Flat Tail in the future. Maybe consider being a little less harsh with people from our group on the forum. While many of us don’t have your level of experience in the motorcycle world, most of us are not youngsters, and so it might be best to let us make our own decisions and not feel responsible for keeping us safe. I’d like our little thread here to be a fun place to see each other’s pics and ride stories, and I think people are less likely to post here if they think they’ll be criticized. I know in my case, I come here to the thread (and to Flat Tail) for fun - I get plenty of criticism and conflict at my day job.

    HopRunner, I haven’t met you yet in person, though I know you’ve ridden with some of the folks in our group. I’ve heard good things about you from our man Righty65, and hope you’ll consider dropping by Flat Tail this coming Tuesday.

    To folks who don’t yet know us personally, I’d encourage you to join us some Tuesday night - Killer might even buy you a beer. Until you get to know us, I’d like to ask that you consider not posting to this thread unless it’s to ask advice about our local area. The people in this group are important to me. As a relative newbie to riding, I’ve learned a lot from folks in the group (most definitely including Digger), and have ridden with many of them. When we think someone in our group is out of line, we’ll point it out to them (often in a private conversation). I think that will generally be more effective than your intervention.

    In my experience, life is short and often harsh. In my world, motorcycles are for fun, so let’s try to work on what we originally intended this group to be - people who all enjoy riding and could get together to ride, or failing that, get together to talk riding, bikes, routes, trips, etc.

    See you Tuesday.
  5. Righty65

    Righty65 Wet behind the ears

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    Fabulas post CC

    I don't want to loose anyone from Cor Adv.

    I am grateful for the experience you bring to us DD. And your stories rock!

    And we all enjoy Killer and his heart.

    I have loads of great memories made with all you guys. Planning on many more with everyone of you.

    Spoiled Brat out.
    R
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  6. Pocketsprocket

    Pocketsprocket Been here awhile

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    I'd drop by Tuesday, but Killer already gave my free beers to Digger....... :photog
  7. CrackedCanyon

    CrackedCanyon Been here awhile

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    Next time there's free beer to be had, you can have mine. Much to Killer's chagrin, I don't drink beer...
  8. Renaissanceman

    Renaissanceman DON'T PANIC!

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    Okay, Russ gets my nomination for post of the year!Couldn’t have said it better myself... really, I couldn’t.

    And count me still in, too. I really admire the community you guys have built up here and I’ve always felt welcomed. Being new to the state and especially new to riding in the coast range, I’ve really appreciated the tips and tracks you all have shared with me. Every time I’ve witnessed someone new being introduced, it’s been a super friendly reception.
    Alright... as friendly as this bunch can be - maybe they sit us off in the corner for a reason LOL
    Not sure I’ll make it this week, but I’ll crutch my way down soon. Looking forward to seeing everyone! And I DO love beer, so I’ll drink one for Russ!
    Cheers!


    2003 Dakar - 119,000 miles!
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  9. fletch123

    fletch123 Been here awhile

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    I sometimes stop by this thread since I met the guys at ADV night at Flat Tail a couple summers ago while on a trip touring Oregon.
    I showed up unannounced because I had blown forks seals on my 1190 and the local KTM dealers directed me there.
    I meet Digger D, Killer D, Zuber, and others and I want to say that I could not have felt more welcomed.
    I got to ride with Digger and Zuber later that fall at a BMW rally here in California and had a great time and enjoyed there company and had a
    great time trying to keep up with Digger. Like he says in his tag line, he rides with gusto.
    I never got the sense that any of these guys were condescending in any way and hope to meet up with them again someday.

    I will add that I enjoyed the beer and food at Flat Tail, and the waiter that severed us was quite a character with a sharp wit and humor.
    It seemed like a very popular local's place and I would recommend it to others.
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  10. Zuber

    Zuber Zoob

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    Going early tonight. Hope to see you all about 5 pm.
  11. KillerD

    KillerD BoozeMagician

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    Wow....I am beyond speechless right now. Considering I hadnt checked the forum since my last post, this is all one giant and extremely shocking development to me.

    First things first...HopRunner , in no way whatsoever was my comment about your bike meant to be an insult, or offensive, and it apparently was both. I sincerely and whole-heartedly apologize for that misinterpretation. Neither you, nor those who are so quick to completely demonize me seem to be familiar with my style of talking, writing, and generally being a sarcastic, joking kinda guy. Guess it came out differently then I had intended, and again, I am sincerely sorry for that.

    The reason I included the story about my KLR, was because I was in a virtually identical situation as you are with that twin of yours. I loved my KLR to death and thought it was the best bike in the world...until Zube let me hop on his KTM 500EXC, and I realized how much easier, and therefore more fun a real dual sport is to ride off road and off pavement. I was merely trying to suggest you will likely experience the same thing in a humorous manner.....thus the "have enough cash for another bike" comment... guess my attempt was an epic fail. Your bike is fine, but its not a dual sport, and its going to be more difficult to ride in snotty stuff, which makes it less fun. End of point. If you were trying to take that thing down single track at china hat, or browns camp, then I would certainly comment on the safety factor, but I dont believe thats the case, which is why i didnt. I dont believe I ever mentioned saftey at all, either, so not sure how I got lumped in there.....much less Flat Tail.

    TripHammer.....Take a breath for a minute.....It seems you are quick to judge digger for his apparent rudeness, yet are using precisely the tactics you are offended by against myself at the same time. I made a comment that I intended to be a light hearted fun-poking at those of us (myself included) who started off riding a square peg through a round hole, if you catch my drift. It was not received the way I intended it to be, and once again, I apologize for that. Please extend me the favor of not jumping to conclusions about myself or my business based on a single incorrectly interpreted comment, and I will do the same for you. If you had spent time with us all in person, or been a member of this forum longer, you would certainly understand that offending people is not something im known for, while quelling this very type of BS is.

    To everyone else who felt it was appropriate to jump on the bandwagon and trash my name and the name of my business, once again based off of a single well intended and misunderstood comment, please also take a step back, and a moment to understand exactly what youre saying, and the effect it may have. I pride myself deeply on being an excellent host...I have lost track of the number of beers both in bottle and pint I have offered in order to welcome new members and appreciate old ones, not because I think its somehow going to make me money (quite the opposite) but because riding, and enjoying and encouraging others to do so is one of the most important things in my life. Period.

    I wont pretend that the comments made didnt offend me, because they absolutely did, as they were obviously intended to. If you have ever had an issue with service, or anything else to do with Flat Tail in the past, you certainly have not brought it to my attention, as I would have done everything humanly possible to remedy the injustice as I always do. If you have never been, or have swung by once, and are now presuming to know anything about me, my business, or my moral fiber; you do not.

    Digger, this isnt the first time we've had a conversation like this, but I do hope it is the last. As others have mentioned, you have a wealth of knowledge that can make inexperienced riders faster, safer, and more liable to have a good time. Use your powers for good, not evil. As my mother used to say "you catch more flys with honey, than with poison". That said, i certainly did not realize "lump" was the F-word of motorcycle slang. The more you know.....

    Thanks for the post CC, you have, as usual managed to calmly put things together in a way most cant. I would also like to touch on a point that you made. This is a thread for a local group of riders that meet at a specific location on specific days. It is a thread for people who know each other in the real world, not just online If you have never been, and have never met us, please know that you will have a vastly insufficient understanding of each of our particular quirks, mannerisms etc. We know each other. We are friends. If you do not plan on getting to know us, please consider posting in a different thread.

    Unfortunately I will be working in Portland and Mcminnville through the night and will not be back in time for tonights meetup. Hope to see you all next time.
  12. DiggerD

    DiggerD DougFir from SuperDuke Days

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    Here's some dirty laundry that need to get hung out.

    Was having lunch at Squirrels, (local watering hole), last Friday like I do often with a group of buds I have worked with for the last 30 odd years. One has a machine shop and got interview for a publication. One of the words they used to define his personality was "Gruf", which totally surprised him. Really thru him for a loop. I piped up, "Better than being called a Pansy" which got a good laugh.

    I mention this because I fit in the same Gruf category. We don't mean any disrespect, we just call it how it is. You have to have your act together when running machinery, or it can kill you, and others.

    Another friend of mine taught people how to climb at places like Smith rocks. He told me the hardest thing to do was to tell a person they did not have what it takes for this sport and they might kill them self, and others.

    When I took classes for SCUBA diving, I was told I could and should slug your diving bud if he got out of line. I was diving with my bud and I did not yet have a dive compass. He wanted to see how deep we could go. I could not clear my ears as we went down and my ears hurt like hell. He kept going down. Nice. I had to get out of the water, now. Ski boats were going over head and I had to guess where shore was..so much for counting on your bud. Ski boats could have killed me. Did not slug him. He got his pay back thru carma. Went to a rock quarry for a dive and met two gals who took us up on a ledge to jump off. They were doing it for years. Two much for me but I went lower and dove off. Gave me a headache. My bud did nota, and it really bugged him. Saw him a few weeks later, his face looked different...WTH....he went back, jumped off from the top like the girls did, lost his depth perception on the way down, freaked out, arms out to his side, mouth open, prob screaming. Water jetted into his mouth and ripped the heck out of his cheeks and lips. Under side of his arms were all black and blue...could have knocked him out and killed him.

    Another bud and I were out riding dirt bikes, on new to us trails. The trail dropped over a cliff. The bud was in front of me and had to stop because of other riders in the area. I had to take evasive actions that in my experience not all riders would / could do. I could have killed or seriously injured my riding bud. A new bee could have killed him. My bike was hanging from a tree and we had to cut it down. I rang my bell so hard I had to quit riding for that day.

    Another ride, a bud hits a softball size rock that sends him face first with an open face helmet into a lava pile flow. They don't move and rip the heck out of skin. I put on my best poker face and patted his eye brow back sort of flush and say our week end B's ride is done. (bikes, beer, babes, bullets) We head back to the cabin, load up and send him towards home riding shotgun. They think is a good idea on the ride to stop to have it checked out. Got stitches after pulling some un needed bone fragments.

    So another trip, another year I think it's time to wipe some of the dirt of my dirt bike skid lid. The scratches on the chin bar were not scratches. I cracked the helmet chin bar on a get off.

    Another riding bud was following me down a mountain road and we were on street bikes.
    He missed a corner and killed himself. One of the hardest conversations I have ever had was with his mother.

    And yet one for KillerD who beat me to posting today...On one of my first outing on my 950, Zuber and I were nozing around in the coastal range. The old road we were exploring was fun and covered with moss, and down hill, that kept sucking us in. We made it out with the big bikes...a big lump = a heavy mass, not the f bomb, just something with a lot of weight. Any way the coastal range is full of these roads. And we could have easly not have made it out....and I felt it worthy to tell a new rider to take care...but it came out wrong for some....back in the frickin dog house again...dang it..


    So..hell yea I take this sport, and other things I like to do seriously, and I like my Gruf buds.
  13. CrackedCanyon

    CrackedCanyon Been here awhile

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    See you there.
  14. Pocketsprocket

    Pocketsprocket Been here awhile

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    And have a Root Beer?
  15. erhomatic

    erhomatic n00b

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    Good grief, this thread sure got contentious. Maybe we should change subjects.

    Sooo ... what's the best oil to use?

    [ducks]
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  16. Righty65

    Righty65 Wet behind the ears

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    My tires are better than yours
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  17. KillerD

    KillerD BoozeMagician

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    Dont know bout ya'll, but I need a god damned ride! Thinking we hit pavement this Sunday, leave around 10 ish so things can thaw out. Down to deadwood, over the hill to florence, lunch there or in yachats, then back through alsea. All pavement, and we can tap out early and settle for a few beers in deadwood if the roads are too sketchy. Should be about 6 hours or so depending on how long we lunch for.
  18. Renaissanceman

    Renaissanceman DON'T PANIC!

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    ... I wanna go!
    Oh wait... ☹️ Dammit!

    Okay, just post up a couple pictures for those of us unable to participate - please
  19. KillerD

    KillerD BoozeMagician

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    IMG_6552.JPG Hit some pretty hardcore shit yesterday....

    Shit! Wrong photo!!!

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    There we go....
  20. erhomatic

    erhomatic n00b

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    All of our bikes are evidently waaaaay too big.

    Now I'm looking to see if I can get TKC80s that fit my Honda Met. :-)