Cost of ownership: KTM 1190 vs Multistrada 1200

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  1. Katoom72

    Katoom72 Been here awhile

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    By the way, 1190 service times are half of what they write for the 990 for a normal service to even 1/3rd of the 950/990 for a big service (valves n' stuff).

    1190adv
    1 000 = 71 minutes
    15 000 = 101 minutes
    30 000 = 132 minutes

    990 adv
    1 000 = 180
    7 500 = 200
    15 000 = 320

    So not only did the intervals get longer but the work can be done quicker aswell.

    But if u are looking for a streetbike with touring capabilities and a sporty character you're way cheaper off with the 2013 SMT.
    Service might cost a bit more but the new price is cheaper then the 1190 and ALLOT cheaper then the Multi.
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  2. pdxmotorhead

    pdxmotorhead Been here awhile

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    Sooo,,, While some can scream damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,,

    Some of us have to include the financial impact of operating our toys, fact of life..

    The OP had experience with a Duc,, is looking at a KTM,, wants to know if the KTM will cost a bunch more to operate. (A bunch less is a bonus.. )

    Its a sanity check to make sure your not buying in to an unaffordable situation.

    I dont see the harm in that...


    Cheers
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  3. Wuffi

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    @katoom

    You are right. My 990 was more expensive than the Multi especially because of the service times. This should be better with the 1190 and most of the parts are cheaper from KTM in my memory.
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  4. Katoom72

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    Just curious, how about farkels? Like let's say a radiator guard or bashplate.
    Are they more expensive aswell on a Duc? (my guess is yes since the addons have to look as sharp as the bike)
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  5. pebble35

    pebble35 Long timer

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    My 2p (or 2c for our US friends) worth !

    I do a fair few miles by UK standards - 10,000 plus a year on my 990 over the last 4 years.

    I am changing to an 1190 (next week with a bit of luck).

    One factor that came into the equation of whether to change or not was the cost of running the bike. My current 990 was due for replacement so I could have bought a new 990 instead of the 1190 - but my past (I used to be an accountant !) came into play. I reckon the 1190 will cost me £125 a year for servicing (ignoring tyres/chain and sprockets, and brake pads) compared to £500 for the 990. The better fuel consumption should save me £250 a year as well.

    So I will save over £500 per year by running an 1190 compared to a 990. That will very quickly erode the higher upfront cost of the 1190 .........

    As far as the OP's original post I cannot really comment but I am sure the KTM will be cheaper than the MTS.

    Of course you should really forget the hard £ cost of ownership and think in terms of smiles per mile and let that decide which is the better bike :rofl
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  6. mario848

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    major service for the Duc should be around $1,000usd at 15,000 miles.
    no experience with the KTM
    in the end, ride them both and buy what u will happy with in the long run. in my experience the biggest motorcycle cost has always been buying a bike your not happy with a year later then eating the depreciation to buy the next bike.
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  7. JTucker

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    By your logic the Duc must be a vastly superior bike because it's far more expensive to maintain. :D
    Why does a fine piece of machinery have to be expensive to maintain anyway?
    This is the kind of thing that really puts me off to owning a KTM. I like the bikes, but there seems to be quite an elitist jerk attitude by a number of owners. Let me also say I know a number of great guys who own these bikes, but I know a few who sound just like above post. :lol3
    I've personally ridden a few and liked the SMT, the RC8 was of course a fast torture device.
    The 990 Adventure left me kind of sad because I really wanted one. Maybe I need to take another ride on one because it seemed pretty bland to me.

    Cost of ownership is a concern for most people, most of them haggle over the selling price as well. I'm more like most people, I'll give up a little of the cool factor to gain a lot when it comes to things like maintenance costs. I currently own five bikes, a couple of which are European but they aren't particularly high maintenance bikes either.

    Buy what you want that you can or are willing to afford.
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  8. Capt.saveaho

    Capt.saveaho Been here awhile

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    Is KTM in motogp?
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  9. RadoR6

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    Asking this question is pointless as comparing MotoGP bikes with any other standard bike is as comparing an F1 car with Ford Focus.
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  10. Kelvininin

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    I think that's a bit harsh... I consider myself and enthusiast, I have two bikes, ride year round and average more that 20K miles a year. I recently traded my KTM A990 for a Super Tenere, not so much due to maintenance cost, but due to the amount of maintenance required, the quarkiness, stock ergos, and I didn't trust it. My other bike is a Victory Vision, and its been all over the western US. Its also easy and quick to maintain, with the exception of rear tire changes.

    It just seemed like I was doing as much wrenching as I was riding on the KTM, and I would rather be riding than wrenching. So I traded my KTM for the Tenere, and have been very happy.

    You can be an enthusiast, and still concerned about maintenance time and cost. Although comparing a KTM to a Ducati for maintenance cost, is kind of like discussing the difference in potato and po-TA-to. I would imagine there would not be much of a difference with these two machines.
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  11. Katoom72

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    Can you buy MotoGP bikes for the street?
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  12. Harold Waikiki

    Harold Waikiki oldfatdumbbrokeoutofshape

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    I own lots of bikes as you can see below. I find the high costs to be modifying, farkleing, and fixing things I break. Routine maint seems to be a lower cost for me. I love all my bikes and will probably buy an 1190R. I don't even care what all the costs are. I can't believe I own them all and feel very blessed. Currently Head2wind has my 950SE torn all the way down. It is an '09 I got a few months ago with only 700 miles. Cost me $9000. Will have about $20,000. in before I ride it. See it in Steamboat! I feel whatever it costs to own-who cares? A fellow bike nut job.
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  14. Ladukebob

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    US dollars?

    Local ktm shop in Portland quoted me around 4 hours worth of work. With going shop prices probably around $400

    If this holds true I think that's a pretty reasonable cost.
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  15. speed_racer

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    a big +1 there..
    Although I drive a jeep v8 so any bike is cost effective in comparison hehe..

    Seriously though, Ive owned my KTM for 1.5 weeks and all I have been thinking thinking about at work is my ride home and if i should buy a givi trekker top case or ktm top case.. should i buy tkc80's or stick with a set of E01 dakar MITAS,
    then once i have them, plus some wolfman softbags, Where am I going to head too?...

    hehe.. KTM is cheap in comparison to the BMW 1200 and a shit load better bike and also has 15000km service intervals... I feel like after owning this bike I have had my head in the sand thinking BMW was the best quality bike.. but im fairly new the adv scene..

    Would I go a multistrada? nope.. cos its just a more upright sports bike, I like to use mine off road.. (a multistrada rider keeps stealing my parking spot out the front and so i park up next to him and wonder how the hell he is going to get down the stairs without the ground clearance I have :D ) I'll sit back n watch one day..
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  16. speed_racer

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    Not really pointless.. it was just a question, and considering KTM's superbike engine is in a KTM adventure bike.. it makes it all relevant now doesnt it?

    Tell me, what ford focus has a F1 engine?
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  17. Katoom72

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    Superbike runs with MotoGP engines?

    And it was not a question, it was a 'japanese roadbikes are better because they compete in MotoGP' comment.
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  18. speed_racer

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    Nope but superbike runs superbike engines in say.. i dunno the world superbike race? ;)

    and it was in fact, a question..

    you see? :lurk
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  19. Katoom72

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    it was a retorical question, commenting on my post saying japs are boring. :-)

    and the adv runs a 1190 stock engine, not a superbike race engine. So i dont see the relevance to motogp at all.
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  20. DuctTape

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    I think the OP asked a very intelligent question. I own both a Ducati and Aprilia which I am totally smitten with and both are Italian Studs.

    Unfortunately when it came time for me to purchase an Adventure bike I had to pass on both of them. If you live in North America and don't live in some place like California, Texas or Florida dealer support for both Ducati and Aprilia are pretty much non existent. Since Ducati and Aprilia are both not very popular parts are both expensive and in a lot of instances not in stock here in the States with a long lead time from Italy. Both Aprillia and Ducati are not bikes you can repair on the side of the road unless you want to drag along a trailer full of special tools and diagnostic equipment.

    When you consider just these truth's you realize that both Ducati and Aprilia really aren't bikes you want to pack up and travel out into the wilderness of North Dakota alone.



    Enter KTM. I don't own the 1190 so I'm writing this from a 990 and 690 point of view and when it comes to adventure bikes the support for both parts and mechanics are far superior to either of the Italian makes.

    Like I wrote I love my Italian beauties but they live their lives on the Track or close to home and I would never consider traveling out of the county on either of the Italian brands regardless of the model. Ducati and Aprilia here in North America just aren't qualified adventure bikes for the previous reasons stated.
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