couple of Gas Gas questions

Discussion in 'Trials' started by OlyRider, Nov 24, 2011.

  1. OlyRider

    OlyRider Long timer

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    Looking at an '04 280. Haven't seen it yet.

    Needs a back fender. Ballpark, how much are they?

    Kickstarter doesn't always grab. Is that common and/or easy to diagnose? Kickstart gear?

    Thanks!
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  2. Chadd

    Chadd I live in the wrong place

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    Just got a price of ~$82 for a rear fender for my 95.

    I am not sure of what causes the kick start thing but I think it must be fairly common because I looked at an 01 last weekend that did the same thing.

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    Kick start gear is worst design ever. You will need kick start gear, idler gear and possibbly new shaft. Costs vary as to which parts and availablity. Could be as high as 175.00 plus. But this is normal wear and tear on a pro.
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  4. Pro_Marinero

    Pro_Marinero Carbon Sasquatch

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    The Pro has a known design flaw in that gear. If you don't engage it correctly and kick, it will damage it. You have to make sure it stops at a certain point before kicking (or something to that effect). 2Ply over on ThumperTalk did a good write up on it. It's NOT normal wear and tear if the user is aware of the correct starting procedure, but as it wasn't really diagnosed in 04 yet I would call it normal for that one. :lol3
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  5. OlyRider

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    Thanks, guys!

    So it doesn't sound like a deal breaker if the price is right?
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  6. Sting32

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    Oly,

    It is tricky changing the parts out, for the kicker. But if you are a decent hand/eye coordination mechanic, you will do it fine. I had an 04 300. newer design shaft makes importer and parts sell you the kick shaft w/dog eared gear, then you take parts (spring, circlips, washers and whatever) off the old one. Replace the idler, because it is probably boogered up.

    but there is a video on youtube about the general proceedure. and on the www.gasgas.com website, in the technical section, there is a word document you can download, and on page 8 you find how to line up the spring (refered to as INDEXING). Just get close to drawing, cause the drawing is outdated last I printed page 8 (Im pretty sure about that page #, but dont shoot me if I forgot...)

    It is something to check each year, I think damage happens when you dont slap kick these bikes, because I broke and dad broke the gears off in 04 bikes trying to start them like you would a "normal" bike. I think we both went through more than one, but you only had to buy the dog ear gear, and possibly idler if it got boogered up. of course dollar was stronger then too, parts in general were cheaper.

    FWIW, I cant recall having broken/mangled those kicker parts in the last 4 bikes 06-11 raga, Might be some due to updates in design too. FYI, I buy dads used bike when he then buys the new bike every couple years, but in 04 we both had aquired the 04's around the same time, and broke kickers within month or two, of each other.

    Fenders have gone up, Lewissport on web would help you figure out prices new. But, if the current owner has both pieces, stitch it together with a few zip ties, and or add a small bit of a metal cofee can... They are prone to break, it is the plastic they used, and when they clear coated it they got very brittle in COLD weather. Newer bikes (since 10), the fenders seem to be made out of Gumby's siblings... :lol3

    what Pro-Marinaro was talking about ( I think) is about the ckick leaver stop was, you have to make sure the kick lever is positioned in the factory position! If you try to move it forward on the shaft to get a bigger kick, and I am talking about where the lever is when not in use, (at rest or up position). Some people tried to cheat the kicker forward ONE spline... If you do this, you can twist or over-rotate the insides on the shaft too far, before the kick lever stops when kicked, which it does by hitting the footpeg, which is end of travel for kicker.
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