CPR Fabrication / Rottweiler; first class

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by alongat, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. alongat

    alongat Long timer

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    Yes, I know this should probably go into the review or vendors experience section but given all the various threads on the CPR products and the recent rally, I thought no one would mind if I shared my experience and opinion here given the relevance to us KTM guys and timing of Chris' expansion of his product offering. I was in California on a business trip this week and took some extra time to visit Chris and his lovely wife at CPR. When I arrived, I was shocked at what I saw; a Singer Porsche 911 (sorry, I am a life-long 911 enthusiast and I've written articles for Total 911 magazine and various PCA publications so the Singer cars are very near and dear to my heart). - in any case, I can't say too much given the development work that Chris is performing on this car but the fact that he has been handed the task of developing crucial components for a $400,000 hand built and limited production vehicle was impressive and demonstrated Chris' capabilities and craftsmanship.
    OK, onto the good stuff...I picked up my Rottweiler air intake system, the new doghouse storage compartment and quick-snap glove box solution (see other CPR threads or their site for full information and pictures). Having just arrived home on the red-eye, I haven't installed them yet but plan to over the next few days and I will try to provide pictures, experience feedback, etc at that time. For now however, I cannot say enough about how well designed and thoughtful these components are. The finish is second to none and they simply drip of quality construction - the sort of quality you would expect from OEM suppliers. Chris is an amazing and interesting guy - he races, lives and breathes KTMs and works his ass off to further his vision...this is exactly the kind of person I want to make sure succeeds as he will no doubt create many, many more goodies for willing buyers like us here. The intake system is well designed and has evolved from careful design and experience - Chris explained the lessons learned early-on throughout his intensive development cycles and the end result reflects that - it is top-notch. The storage solution is simple, effective and well packaged to aid in ease of installation, this is a perfect example of how "simple is the best engineering approach". As for the quick-release glove box mount, all I can say is WOW - beautifully designed and fabricated metal-work, great hardware and for those of us who have removed twelve bolts/screws the idea of reducing that effort into a single turn of a universal Dzuz fastener simply impresses me; this is a no-brainer. Lastly, Chris took time out of his busy day to show me his exhaust system that some of you saw at the rally - having had several KTM bikes with Akrapovic systems, the one thing I can comment on at this point is that I have yet to find Akrapovic's equal in terms of finish and quality - that is until now... this system is absolutely delicious from the piping and welds right down to his laser cut flanges and heat shield - I was in awe and almost salivating :)

    On top of all this, Chris is an amazing guy, down to earth and more than happy to speak with people about bikes, cars, life and our shared love for these toys - he is clearly taking what was a passion-driven grassroots business into a bespoke and function-specific operation with no compromise to quality and design. He's is a fantastic guy with a ton of great ideas and the knowledge and experience to execute on his vision - thank you Chris (if you're reading this) for the tour, the great conversation and fantastic products. It was truly a pleasure meeting you and I look forward to catching up next time I'm back in California (hopefully within three weeks).

    For anyone on the fence in deciding between CPR and alternatives, I can confidently state that you should look no further - this is the real deal, don't make a price-based decision; after all, you own a premium bike, not some knock-off, why wouldn't you apply the same thinking into its components?

    Install details and pictures to follow in the coming days...
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  2. Maoule

    Maoule Been here awhile

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    Whew...I almost got a woody reading this:D Did Chris pay you or did you pay Chris:lol3:lol3 Thanks for the report.
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  3. alongat

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    Nah, no affiliation; I just get excited when I meet someone of his caliber and skills in this market which is so often filled with fly-by-night half-baked people who may have good intentions but zero capability and even less business acumen. Why do those types often hide behind the allure of good looking websites with no substance behind? Hey, don't get me wrong, I am highly supportive of people who start hobby businesses for the love of the work, etc but I just wish that they would be more honest about themselves - the internet has that ability for people to portray themselves in a way that falsely credentializes them - it's just such a treat to meet the real deal and be witness to the result of such skills.

    Like I stated, KTMs and old Porsche 911s - both incredibly near and dear to my heart...
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  4. zgfiredude

    zgfiredude RMAR

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    I had the opportunity to meet Chris at the Rally, and admire his products. I would wholeheartedly echo Alon's sentiments about CPR/Rotweiler's products and knowledge. First class stuff, and I'm still developing my shopping list and the order of priority!! :freaky
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  5. mousitsas

    mousitsas Long timer

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    I am still waiting to find out the differences between ITG and CPR filters :ear
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  6. alongat

    alongat Long timer

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    Forget that shopping list prioritization; just buy everything now - it's inevitable :)



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  7. alongat

    alongat Long timer

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    Don't know, sorry...why do we care? Am I missing something?

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  8. flynride

    flynride Been here awhile

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    What's your problem?? :ear

    Someone comments about how they like a company and a great product and your all hung up on the differences between two filter densities. You need to grow up.

    Now that is off my chest, why is it that you chime on on every filter thread about the foam density and what the difference is between Rottweiler and ITG? Why don't you contribute something to the conversation rather than make snarky little bitch comments.

    And....if you were that worried about the differences, why don't you buy both filters and post a report about the differences for all of us to understand???

    If all else fails, refer to my first statement.
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  9. DesertSurfer

    DesertSurfer Tail sprayin

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    The difference to me between ITG and CPR is the support you get beyond the specifics of the product. At the heart of CPR, you have a passionate individual who's ALL IN. CPR spends the extra time developing proven products that are heavily based around extensive expertise. And the customer support is a valued "gold service" that goes way beyond the superior quality of their products.

    That "gold" customer support to me is what separates the experimenteurs from the real deal in product design and development.

    You can see by the passion involved in dealing with CPR that they'll be around supporting great products for the long haul. They are not a fly by night, and the way they made an appearance at the KTM Rally to help load maps for KTM 990 owners is a classic example of "gold" service in my book.

    Chris is a core rider at the heart of his business, a KTM Adventure owner and a valuable aftermarket designer/ fabricator/ tuner to all of us privateers. I would hope that the LC8 community understands what they get with CPR, and embraces and supports aftermarket companies with talent and commitment like CPR.

    But as they say... you can lead an extra ten horses to people, but whether the'll take the reins is another story.
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  10. JohnnyWaffles

    JohnnyWaffles Been here awhile

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    You sold me.

    Passion is what brought me to the KTM brand to begin with. You can visit any other subcategory brand on this forum and will not find the same level of insanity and devotion.
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  11. Rally_West

    Rally_West Central Scrutinizer

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    Well said...I am all in too, from my filter purchase to the Dog House, etc. Great company deserves the communities support.
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  12. brents347

    brents347 Trusting my Cape...

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    I purchased a CPR/Rottweiler filter set-up for my 950 SE from Chris at the rally. Came home and got it installed and everything went perfectly. Now doing a little testing with different jetting, but that's easy to change with this filter so no big deal!

    Again, a great product from a knowledgable and passionate member of our community. His 990 with his products and new exhaust system were a thing of beauty. And don't even get me started on Mariel, his wife! There are a number of emoticons that would express this properly, but wouldn't be polite for people that I know personally, so I'll settle for :knary.

    Now Chris, get a doghouse for us carbureted guys!

    Brent
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  13. alongat

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    You know what? If I had any idea that my comments would incite a fight over this filter versus that, I would have just kept my mouth shut but I believe in giving as much as getting and I believe that is precisely what a forum like this is all about. I've owned a number of KTMs over the years and the value of the combined knowledge and experience of the folks here is simply priceless. I have had so much help with trivial and major issues and decisions - I always do my best to give something back and pay it forward whenever I can. I'm glad to hear that my opinion and experience of Chris and CPR seems synonymous with those of us who have interacted with him.

    Anyhow, if someone doesn't like what I have to say, I would hope for and expect that you guys would tell me to piss off or that I'm just talking out of my ass - I am man enough to know when I need to be schooled and to be perfectly honest, I can use a decent ass-kicking once in a while to keep me honest :)
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  14. ADV Dave

    ADV Dave Gear up

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    alongat, you couldnt be more correct. this thread should certainly stay on track and i believe what your witnessing is echoing your sentiments. what you may not know is that the clown (sorry) in post #5 has attempted to sabotage nearly every positive thread on cpr and i believe due to the positive nature of your comments, the backlash on this guy had to happen here. its was just time.

    thank you again for your contribution here. this kind of effort is rare and refreshing and if i already hadnt had nearly everthing they make, i would certainly get it now. :clap
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  15. gaspipe

    gaspipe Wandering Soul Super Moderator

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    As a somewhat bored reader and user of one of Chris's products, these rah-rah threads are tiresome. I love seeing objective product reviews and real time experience of our vendor threads, and there's plenty of it here.

    Please, please, please take the character witness stuff back to vendors. For the love of doG. My inbox can take no more.
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  16. gaspipe

    gaspipe Wandering Soul Super Moderator

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    Not a hater. Read your PM's.
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  17. mousitsas

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    Flynride, many thanks for setting me straight, you were so right on your comment. So, here is my contribution, if I may. Today, I spent a fair amount of time on the phone with the ITG manufacturer, asking him the very same thing. His reply was that the two filters are IDENTICAL, same foam density. This is what I was told and this is what I convey here. Unfortunately I lack the funds to purchase the CPR variation to compare with the ITG I already have, so I had to resort to the word of the manufacturer. Of course if you question that contribution, you may of course find out for yourself and probably, extract a better and more accurate information. I hope you do, since it concerns the community pockets and bikes. I will be the first to be happy to be proven wrong.

    Dave, so many thanks, I love you too. Please, excuse my fixation with wanting to make straight, things I suspect to be wrong.

    To the people reading this thread, or any other on that matter:
    Please stay assured that I will not place any comment from this point on, on any such discussion. Also excuse me for boring you and/or causing any negative emotions, related or not.

    Over and out...:1drink


    edit.
    To the distributor of CPR filters....I have on no occasion ever been unfriendly or performed an ill-willed contact with you, other than questioning your 'authority' in a civil manner. To my book this is good practice, not bad. So, since this is my day of excuses, please be the recipient of one from me. I don't know the reason of it yet, but I'm sure there has to be one! Its also free.
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  18. bikyto

    bikyto Dans le doute...gaz!

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    keep on contributing, please. while i may not agree with you all the time, i do enjoy having different points of view including the ones you provide.
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    RedRupert Brit in the Soviet Union

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    Why are you and flynride being so tough on mousitas? The above comments are just rude and unnecessary. Or have I missed something - if I have, please would you be kind enough to spell it out?

    Thank you.
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  20. alongat

    alongat Long timer

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    Let me reference post #7 in this thread - I said I don't know what the difference is between the foam element of the CPR kit and the ITG filter and I asked if it matters. Apparently, it does actually matter to some people. If they are the same element, so what? To me, the CPR kit includes:
    1- some kind of air filtration element (plus optional additional protection if desired)
    2- the other designed / sourced components (base plate, hardware, etc.)
    3- access to a proven and successful software map
    4- support from an established vendor who also happens to be a nice guy
    5- warranty

    So I ask again, why does it matter so much if component #1 on my list above is the same or different from ITG? Maybe I'm missing something here...

    Enough then - apparently, I am boring people with my "rah rah" and creating chaos elsewhere with others...

    Sorry everyone - I will go back into my cave.
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