Crash protection

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by jsrider, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. jsrider

    jsrider Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,495
    Having had my first get-off, albeit at low speed in sand that didn't do any damage, I'm thinking if I do more serious off-roading I should invest in some crash protection for the expensive, hard-to-repair tanks. The options appear to be:

    1. KTM crash bars
    2. Hepco-Becker crash bars
    3. KTM carbon fiber tank protectors

    I'd be interested in opinions regarding which are best. I think I read about a weak point at the lower tank mounting point. Do any of these protect that spot? Also, are the KTM bars still hard to get? I've been waiting 6 months and counting for a new gas cap.
    #1
  2. AZcacti

    AZcacti Dope on a Rope

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2004
    Oddometer:
    1,327
    Location:
    Phoenix, Arizona
    I can only comment on the KTM Crash Bars since that is what I am running on my 950. They have absorbed a number of big and small impacts. The worst was 35-40 mph on pavement. They have been bent back into shape, smoothed with a grinder and repainted a couple of times now. My tanks have recieved some minor scraches on the paint where the bars have rubbed during a crash. Over all I am convinced that the KTM Crash Bars have saved my fuel tanks from distruction more than once IMHO. :thumb

    [​IMG]

    My version of product testing... :huh
    #2
  3. woodsrider

    woodsrider .........................

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2003
    Oddometer:
    587
    Location:
    Colorful Colorado
    I've just installed the KTM crash bars (not yet crash tested), so I can't comment on their effectiveness.

    Relative to carbon tank guards, I suggest the guards that are available from Adventurers' Workshop. The fit and finish are excellent, and they secure to the tank with the lower fairing bolts and the two bolts under the tank. Due to the thickness of the guards, I had to size up on all four bolts (from my local Ace Hardware). It would have been nice to have the longer bolts included; other that that, they are outstanding.
    #3
  4. PvtIdaho

    PvtIdaho Deck Spotter

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2005
    Oddometer:
    2,249
    Location:
    Guam
    I see the Touratech site shows their CF tank protectors are back in stock.
    Anyone using them and would like to comment?

    Cheers.
    #4
  5. Mack

    Mack Gone, but never forgotten. RIP, Mack...

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2002
    Oddometer:
    3,797
    Location:
    Austin, Texas USA Native Oregonian
    Is Bigt twin still making his beefy tank guards?? (believe that is who it was)
    #5
  6. sashapave

    sashapave riders on the strom

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Oddometer:
    1,434
    Location:
    Oakland CA
    i went the ktm crash-bar route. i think it's a better deal if your bike is going to be on its side a lot. instead of the tank taking the smack, your bars take the hit.

    however, the CF protectors sure look nicer.

    -s
    #6
  7. Wag dog

    Wag dog Adventurer

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2004
    Oddometer:
    25
    Location:
    location, Fernley Nevada
    I have the Carbon Performance guards which have taken some pretty good hits from rocks with only scratches, I was still a little nervous since I seem to get off a lot and have gotten the KTM guards since. I have both on my bike which is probably overkill. One good thing about the carbon performance ones is you can buy just one side if you mess one up.
    #7
  8. blue

    blue Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2004
    Oddometer:
    152
    Location:
    Western Australia
    I have CF for rocks etc and the KTM crashbars. Had a highside a few months ago and saved the bike from a lot of damage. Bars pushed into the LH tank slightly with minor effect, insurance replaced none the less. They did take a large impact at 90kph and held up beter than I did. I have seen some owners complain about them but I think they're well worth the investment.
    #8
  9. Speedzter

    Speedzter Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2004
    Oddometer:
    704
    Location:
    Vic' Australia
    #9
  10. Mack

    Mack Gone, but never forgotten. RIP, Mack...

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2002
    Oddometer:
    3,797
    Location:
    Austin, Texas USA Native Oregonian
    #10
  11. Speedzter

    Speedzter Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2004
    Oddometer:
    704
    Location:
    Vic' Australia
    It might be possible if you "lowered" the high fender about an inch or so with
    spacers .
    #11
  12. FarmerRick

    FarmerRick Long timer

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2004
    Oddometer:
    1,307
    Location:
    Kirkland, TN
    Here's an early shot of the H&B's on my bike (prior to removal of the lower fender). I really like the fit and finish of the bars and the extra strength provided by the crossover bar.

    [​IMG]
    #12
  13. jsrider

    jsrider Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,495
    #13
  14. jsrider

    jsrider Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,495
    How well do they protect the weak spot at the lower tank mounting bolt point?
    #14
  15. jsrider

    jsrider Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Oddometer:
    3,495
    What were their complaints, other than difficulty mounting them?
    #15
  16. FarmerRick

    FarmerRick Long timer

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2004
    Oddometer:
    1,307
    Location:
    Kirkland, TN
    The spot is pretty well covered. I'll try and get a lighter closer shot to show you the mounting technique that H&B use. Looks pretty substantial to me.
    #16
  17. motoman250f

    motoman250f Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2004
    Oddometer:
    492
    I have just the cf on my tanks. I had the ktm bars that seem great to me but the bike starts to look and feel bigger with the bars so i backed down to just the cf tank guards. If I was riding offroad more than about 20 percent I would put the bars back on though.
    #17
  18. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2003
    Oddometer:
    5,747
    Location:
    Mt. Vernon, Illinois
    I've had my Hepco and Beckers for about 6 months and wouldn't have nothing else. Got em from Andrew of course. The crossbar makes them so much stronger than any of the others. You would have to get T-boned by a truck to bend these things. Of course I went anal----and got the carbon thingys too :D


    To mount them to an 05----there is no path thru the bike to put the crossbar. I had to make a hole thru the revamped cooling fan shroud. I figured out an oh so easy way to do this if anybody wants to know.[​IMG]
    A rock got caught under my front fender a while back---right where the stainless brake line is---locked my front wheel--put me on the ground instantly and hard------a little touch up paint on the bars and all was well--except me---ouch :vardy
    #18
  19. Mack

    Mack Gone, but never forgotten. RIP, Mack...

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2002
    Oddometer:
    3,797
    Location:
    Austin, Texas USA Native Oregonian
    Will the HB and others work with the TT skidplate, anyone??
    #19
  20. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2003
    Oddometer:
    5,747
    Location:
    Mt. Vernon, Illinois
    I don't really know for sure---but the Hepco Becker bars lower attachment point is the same bolt as the lower tank bolt----I can't imagine the skid plate attaching there.
    Good question---I'm looking at this skid plate too---actually I heard Andrew had a skid plate in the works--and would prefer to get it from him.
    #20