crashing a fully loaded GSA

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by luca9277, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. kellymac530

    kellymac530 motorcycle addict

    Feb 4, 2010
    so. cal.
    To Kip and Mike54,
    No swinging here....I wear tighty whities...testasterone, Yes. I am a man afterall.

    Yes, I have had someone bleed out and die in my arms. Both in 1988, rough year. One was Rob, and aquaintance I was riding with up Highway 2, Angelus Crest Highway. It was in spring and there was still some minor snow melt. I was in front and we were running about 120mph through a beautiful section past Newcombs. Rob just did not see me raise my hand and upright my bike a bit as I crossed some snow melt water. He was leaned way over and on the gas, he lost the front, then the rear and high sided big time. He hit the ranch fencing, wood post with barbed wire and took out 4 of them with his body. I held him as my other buddy doubled back to Newcombs to calll for help. rob did not make it. Bled out internally and externally.

    The other time was at Ascot raceway in May of 1988. I was hanging with Ronnie Jones cause we had a mutual sponsor and I was standing in turn 4 when he and Ted Booty collided and Ted went straight into the turn 4 firewall head first. I was first to him and held his hand while waving the ambulance over. I watched the life drift out of his eyes. He never regained consciousness and was declared dead later that night at the hospital, but he was gone right there in my hand.

    A 3rd life lost right in front of me was at Perris Raceway in 1997 or maybe 1998. A friend had an aneurism while racing. We did not know that at the time, we just saw him way over jump a double and land on another guy. We were on the starting line for the next moto when that race was red flagged. It felt like forever while the paramedics worked on him and then came the Lifeflight chopper that landed right behind us. We sat there as they carried the gurney in front of us with a paramedic straddling him doing CPR on him. It was pretty obvious he was not gonna make it. A few guys pulled off the line at that point. I waited the few minutes until they cleared the track, fired up, gate dropped and I got second in that moto....Do not tell me what I have and have not done. Jack ass.

    I have never crashed on the street, and yes I do break the law and ride fast very often. All of my crashes that I have been hurt at were at tracks while racing. I have had 4 very serious crashes that have brought all of my surgeries and broken bones.

    40 years of riding for me, most of those have involved some racing if not most of them. MX, SX, and a bit of roadracing.

    So if everyone who rides fast, racing or not is stupid then lets all go to SX tonight and yell at Chad Reed and Ryan Villopoto.
    Ryan Dungey, James Stewart {although he IS a dumbass} and Trey Canard. What a bunch or idiots!!! Broken backs, femurs, knees wrist...surgeries...dumbasses.

    I realize these 4 guys were not racing. So what. They were having fun. The guy walked away. Got some xrays and walked out of the hospital. Insurance bought him a new bike likely.

    If you guys have never been hurt, great. I am not even bragging that I am some special PRO rider. I am just an avid rider who loves to push it hard. The funny thing is, when you push hard, stuff happens. The closer to edge you ride, the fuzzier the line gets.

    I DO know my limits, but I choose to ride close to them. In the dirt, close sometimes bites.

    Come on out to So Cal boys, I will show how fun a motorcycle can be....I will give you a map so I do not have to wait for you though. Maybe I should put the restrictors back in my daughters WR250 and she can wait for you guys at the intersections...she has NO testasterone and no swinging parts but still outrides most guys.
  2. go2cnavy

    go2cnavy Dont Worry Be Brappy

    Apr 2, 2009
    Newport, RI
    You're a fucking idiot. Nuff said.
  3. 2712

    2712 Been here awhile

    Jan 12, 2011

    i can't put aside the patients at work who come to our hospital to recover from a (motorcycle)accident. I like to stay in my comfort zone.:lol3
  4. OConnor

    OConnor Bad juju

    May 22, 2004
    :lurk good stuff.
    Almost makes me sorry I sold that pig of a GSA and can no longer 'nut up' with the big dogs. :gdog
  5. advNZer?

    advNZer? Long timer

    Dec 31, 2008
    Wellington,New Zealand
    yet it seems it ok for you to pass judgement on how other peole ride and or how much fun they are having
  6. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

    Jan 23, 2006
    put something on and stay in that position.
    Well, I look at it like this:

    When I'm on the big bastard going off pavement, I usually have somewhere to go. My reason for riding is to see the place, have some fun, and enjoy my adventure.

    I'm not going to meet new folks, eat different food, see new sights if I'm on my back in some out of the way hospital with a wadded up bike.

    Riding prudently when the track is unknown might not be as exhilarating, but those 30 minutes of exhilaration might well put a rather sudden end to my two weeks of travel. And maybe put an end to more.

    To each his own, and in hindsight, sure, the fellow walked away with a binned motorbike only, but it could have been a lot worse.

    I suggest to you that had his mate sprinted up to him and found him in the fetal position seriously injured or worse-- which could have very easily happened-- we would be having a very different conversation.

    I have never had the big GS act like that, but last year on the Trans-Lab I did have the F650 Dakar swap ends on me after hitting big, one foot apart mini whoops at the top of a hill, followed by about 4" of fresh gravel.
    I was moving right along on the return leg of the trip and decided to take it down a notch after that. Not the best suspension on that little bike (well sorted Ohlins on the big GS) which is being rectified as I type.

    Funny the things that flash through your mind but I remember thinking, "I wonder what they'll find of my body, maybe a helmet and a piece of jacket?" as I was fighting a bike that was trying to swap ends on me and working towards the 12' drop on the side of the road.
  7. ACD

    ACD old nOOb

    Aug 22, 2011
    It is interesting to see the clash of minds. The rational, a bit conservative, versus the adventurous, almost reckless.

    I´m 49, so we can rule out the impetus of youth, and unfortunately we can also rule out the benefits of the experience, since I started riding just five years ago. I have since ridden 40,000 miles, trying to catch up. I know it is not much considering other guys here, but I do not commute so I ride basically around town or taking long trips whenever I can,

    I started with lighter bikes but upgraded recently to a 1150 GSA, which I promptly crashed. In fact, I recognized myself in this video. The cause of the crash is clear: after some time ridding standing on the pegs, the rider got tired or overconfident with the terrain and sat down. Terrain went soft, he remained seated and hit the brakes, probably let go of the gas, too. Been there, done that, flipped the bike and broke a collar bone. End of trip.

    If I could live it again, would I have gone a lot slower, or avoided the gravel road? Probably no. For sure I would have gathered a lot more experience and off-road technic before venturing in that loose gravel again. Since then I took a few offroad classes, practiced more, and will eventually go back to that same gravel and "conquer it"! (meaning I´ll get to the end of the road without hitting the ground face first @ 60mph!!)

    I understand everyone who posted about "staying in the confort zone", but when I'm riding, I am already far from my confort zone. I ride to see new places and meet people, but the objective is the ride, not reach a destination nor making new frieds, even though it is cool to do so. I understand that it varies from people to people, it is natural.
  8. portablejohn

    portablejohn Sociophobe

    Apr 11, 2011
    I ride today in a way that lets me survive to ride tomorrow.
  9. WindSailor

    WindSailor Been here awhile

    Jan 29, 2008
    Somewhere out West

    I'm glad the guy is OK - the bike can be fixed.

    Adventure riding I think is about survival. Sometimes it is not forgiving. Ever crash or get a flat and truly wonder if you will make it out OK? Do you ride alone to some far off destination where this isn't another soul for -MILES-? I think a lot of us have been in those situations. Do you carry a 'SPOT' device? I'm seriously thinking about getting one.

    I think the video serves it's purpose - giving us a slap on the back of the head.

    Again - I'm glad that person is OK.