CRF230L Owners Check In

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by racknack83, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. grnd0

    grnd0 Been here awhile

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    It is shut down. I think it ended late Jan.
  2. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Is hte old forum still reasonably current, can I get answers about suspension questions etc? Wondering what the best replacement for the rear shock is? Bike is for a 120lbs rider but the OEM one seems a little worn out. The bike hasn't been used much so maybe a rebuild with some fresh oil or something, though i haven't looked at it to see if that is viable. Are OEM ones the cheapest route? What are the common upgrades people do to this bike?
  3. jsonder

    jsonder Tired Old Fart

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    IIRC (and that's pretty iffy) the most common swap was from an ~82-84 XR200.

    Now, if the shock is "bad" it has probably been hammered too many times (the rear bottoms out pretty easily).

    My bike has over 10K miles and has been ridden fairly aggressively and the rear shock is still fine (170-pound rider, factory setting {2nd detent, IIRC}). I have bottomed it out a number of times, but it hasn't done much in terms of jumps.

    What kind of riding will this 120-pound rider be doing? If not too wild, the stock shock would be the most simple way to go.

    edit: the old forum is shut down.
  4. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Well the bike is virtually new, an 08 with 4000km. I suspect the shock is ok but may have just been sitting. No sign of this bike having been off road let along on a gravel trail (not a mark any place underneath to suggest it's ever been in the dirt. Original owner said he used it around town as a commuter.

    The shock oil may just be cold and moving slow causing the shock to move up and down in the stroke kind of slowly. I don't have much t compare it to but there is an 08 sitting indoor at a dealer and the suspension seems to compress and rebound ..better?

    Riding will be easy trails and dirt roads nothing hard on a suspension or new rider.
  5. jsonder

    jsonder Tired Old Fart

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    If using it doesn't loosen up the rear shock, a stock replacement would make the most sense.
  6. SUMORYDR

    SUMORYDR Old school rookie

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    What if the rider wasn't a newbie and quite a bit heavier ( like 220lbs )? Does anyone have a particular set up for that ( other than getting the old XR200 set up )? Shouldn't a stiffer rear spring be adequate for pretty much everything?

    Just looking for opinions from folks that have done the mods already.
  7. PineyMountainRacing

    PineyMountainRacing Oops....

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    Steve, I looked around for a higher rate spring (Factory Connection, Racetec are 2 that I remember). I'd love to find one, I have my preload cranked down to compensate for my weight, but would prefer to change out the spring and back off on the PL. If you find something, LMK please.
  8. SUMORYDR

    SUMORYDR Old school rookie

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    Will do for sure. Last time I spoke to Dave at FBI ( Fast Bike Industries ) he guaranteed me that he could ship me one for $110 +S/H and that it should solve any trail riding and mild off-road riding issues that I might have. Being pessimistic I opted to come here and ask the question again just to make sure........ you know, before I buy a spring and it not work and then have to dump money into a full XR200 swap.

    Wanna call him and ask too? I've got his number pretty handy. Oh and I'm not sure which company he would get it from but he said that it is easily attainable.
  9. PineyMountainRacing

    PineyMountainRacing Oops....

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    I bought the spring for my DRZ from Dave, good guy. I'll try to give him a call tomorrow. Did he have different spring rates available? I'll try Factory Connection again, maybe give them a call. They had nothing for the CRF-L on their website, I sent them an email last fall, but never heard back. They sold me a spring for the WR400, it was less $ than FBI.
  10. SUMORYDR

    SUMORYDR Old school rookie

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    Didn't hear if he offered variable spring rates but that'd be good to know ( I'm sure that he was assuming the stiffest spring since I'm so weight challenged ). I'm eager to hear if anyone else ( large company ) has a spring for our little red pigs. Surely the bike can't be that under produced to not warrant some other parts for it...

    Speaking of other parts for it, I have recently spoken to Dee Dee at Sprocket Specialist and got some good news. Gearing for the little piggy comes in a bunch of different sizes. Not only do they have 13, 14, AND 15 tooth front sprockets for the 230L but they also have rear sprockets from 38 tooth all the way up to 74 tooth. Yes really.
    Fronts are steel.
    Rears are aluminum ( but can have the "TITAN TOUGH" coating applied for an additional $15 ).

    Part number for all front sprockets is = Stock # 568 ( 13 -15 tooth ) $24.99
    Part number for all rear sprockets is = Stock # 425 ( 38 - 74 tooth ) $59 for up to 45 tooth then $66 up to 74 tooth +$15 for extra "TITAN TOUGH" coating.

    Hope that someone finds this information helpful.
  11. SUMORYDR

    SUMORYDR Old school rookie

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    Jeremy at Factory Connection called the rear shock a "throwaway" shock and said they don't carry anything for it ( no spring ).

    Louie at Race Tech said "Just buy the new Race Tech shock ($870) and don't worry about the spring".

    After some conversation Louie had me download their "Shock Spring Fit Data Sheet" and asked me to do some measuring and get back with him. I don't have those exact measurements and no plan to disassemble the rear portion of the bike just to get measurements and hope for the best.

    If anyone has exact measurements of our rear shock please reach out to me and I will put those down on the form and send it out to see if there is anything that matches the sizes. If you'd like to see the form I am talking about shoot me a PM with your e-mail addy or phone number and I will text it over to you or fire it over to your e-mail A.S.A.P. ( it will be in pdf format ).

    Steve
  12. Ferdinand

    Ferdinand Ride The Wind ForeverFree

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    Anyone do any easy backroad/trailrides with a passenger on back just wondering how bad it would be on a 230l. Don't plan on go fast or being in a hurry.
  13. jsonder

    jsonder Tired Old Fart

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    I helped haul a fellow out on some moderately gnarly trails after he holed the oil filter cover on his XR250. When it got too steep I had to give him to the other fellow as we were doing wheelies bouncing up the switchbacks.

    Total load was ~350 pounds. Bike did fine with 5 miles of that and 20 miles of pavement with the passenger.

    It was definitely uncomfortable for him.
  14. Ferdinand

    Ferdinand Ride The Wind ForeverFree

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    Thanks I was looking at around 280 for two + weight of gear so might not be too bad for short jaunts I've got a heavily modded seat widened and gel inserts too so that always helps with the rears
  15. PineyMountainRacing

    PineyMountainRacing Oops....

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    I didn't get a chance to post up but I called Factory Connection yesterday, and no dice. I tried FBI but didn't get through, curious how the spring Dave is talking about differs from the standard?

    Personally, I'm going with the Race Tec, I need 1000 worth of shock on my 2000 bike LOL.

    PMR
  16. SUMORYDR

    SUMORYDR Old school rookie

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    Yeah I actually wondered the same thing but I'm trying to stay away from that $1K rear shock..... can't justify that.

    Of course I am still wondering about the 82-84 XR200 rear swap. I checked around for aftermarket shocks for the XR200 and found a bunch of stuff out there for it. Also, Progressive Suspension makes the whole set up for the XR200 but it comes as a pair ( 2 shocks ). My only problem with that is how do we know ( FOR SURE ) that the swap is a plug and play swap?

    Has anyone taken the shock out of their 230L and just bolted in an XR200 shock?
    Was it as easy as unbolting one and bolting up the other?
    Any plate needed to be welded in?
    Any tabs need to be welded in?
    Anything extra needed (shims, extra washers, etc.)?

    Anybody?

    Again, I've got the forms from Race Tech but I do not have the exact information about our 230L shock ( never had mine off ). If we can figure out the XR200 swap then we may be in business with Progressive Suspension but until we know something from someone who has tried it we are at a standstill. I hate that the dedicated CRF230L forum went down. I hate it...
  17. PineyMountainRacing

    PineyMountainRacing Oops....

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    I read about the XR swap last year, I'm not sure it's a bolt in deal. If Dave has a 100 dollar spring that has a higher rate than stock, I would go that way. Race Tec will be more than 100 pretty sure.

    btw, there wasn't much suspension info on the 230L site
  18. SUMORYDR

    SUMORYDR Old school rookie

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    Yeah I never did find a whole bunch of suspension info about the LRP but one thing that I did find yesterday was a link to a site that has done a buuuuuuunch of 230L work (motor/suspension/etc.).

    Frank at www.xr100.com ("Engines Only") helped me out alot and gave me some useful information. Seems like the CRF150 and the 230 have a bunch in common. Check out their site for full suspension info. I looked it over for about an hour yesterday and then called Frank ( 408-275-6300 ) to talk some stuff over with him. Pretty dam good folks over there..... for West Coast folks. :lol3
  19. Ferdinand

    Ferdinand Ride The Wind ForeverFree

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    I had the 230l out with the girlfriend on the back yesterday for about 20 miles of backroads. The bike did surprisingly well. It still rolled 55-60mph with little effort just to see what it could do. I'm about 165 gf about 120.
  20. SUMORYDR

    SUMORYDR Old school rookie

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    Dang, nothing in almost a month.... I guess that people are right "Nobody rides a 230L". Either that or they are all too busy riding to post on here. I like to think that it is the latter of the two...


    Still loving mine!!!!!!!!!