Croom...am I missing something?

Discussion in 'The Sandbox - AKA Flatistan' started by coach417, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. coach417

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    As a new to dirt rider, I have tried my hand at several offroad venues that are relatively local to me.
    Bone Valley ATV park: It is what it is. It's ok, not great (too short), but it is close to me.
    Centennial Trail Ocala: 1st foray into real sand...HOLY CRAP! Ride cut short by me (20 miles in) freaking out about having a head on after nearly having a head on with a quad. If it was one way only, I would have enjoyed it.
    Frostproof/Sebring area: More dual sport with hard pack orange clay agriculture roads. Fun, but not enough offroad. Didn't know where we were going.
    Richloam: Where I was, it was too short (8 miles or so). Lots of hunters hanging at there trucks.
    Croom: Rode as much as I could. All the lettered trails. Just as sandy as the Centennial trail.

    With that being said (or written), I did get the yearly permit for Croom. I just feel like I am missing something. Everyone talks about how great it is. I rode the lettered trails that were 10-20 feet wide and what felt like 2 feet deep of very soft sand. The spider web of trails in the woods were crazy tight for me. Are there any trails at Croom that are more hard packed and through the woods? You know, "Baby Trails". As a mountain biker, I ride the greens, the blues, and the black diamonds. I am looking for the motorcycle equivalent of the blues and greens. As always any help is appreciated.
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  2. Dr.Z

    Dr.Z 6Sigma Knuckle Shflr

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    Croom is a great place to ride. Probably one of the best ORV parks in the state. There are lots of great trails through the woods, hill climbs, 2-track, single track, etc. If you can't find a trail, make your own. You will always run into some sand anywhere in Florida... learn to ride it and be ready for it.

    I'll be at Croom Saturday with the family. You are welcome to tag along if you like.
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  3. OtownMike

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    What are you riding? I assume it's plated since you mentioned Richloam. I haven't ridden in Croom since my smallest bike is a 640, a bit big for the trails in there. Ocala has lots of other numbered trails that are legal for plated bikes, so you can avoid the ATV trails and ride elsewhere. The bigger dirt roads and trails will have less sand (usually) if you're still getting your sand legs.

    Richloam has lots of trails, can get very wet though. It is best to stay out of there during hunting season (general gun starts this weekend). The rest of the time you will maybe see a ranger on the bigger roads, that's about it.
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  4. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    What bike are you riding?
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  5. beaterktm

    beaterktm Been here awhile

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    One thing ive noticed with guys coming from a street backround to the dirt is tire pressure. They have 30psi in there tires. That is unrideable in the sand. Take it down to atleast 15 psi.
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  6. coach417

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    Sorry for the lack of info. I am on an '05 KTM 400 EXC. Yes, plated. I learned on my first outing at Croom to lower the pressure. Went from 20 to 10-12...HUGE difference. I can ride in the sand, but don't want that to be ALL I do. I get it. It's Florida. But I have yet to experience what I keep seeing in some of your pictures.
    Dr. Z, thanks for the offer, but I won't be there this weekend. However, my brother and I are available Monday and Tuesday next week if anyone wants to take pity on us and show us around.
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  7. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    None of the good riding at Croom is near the lettered trails. You could honestly ride that place for several days and not find all of the good spots. You need to try and link up with someone that knows the place. If you have a gps it's a good tool to see where you've been so as not to cover the same spot multiple times.
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  8. Josh Leyburn

    Josh Leyburn Shepherd of Cats

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    Having been to Croom once I can say it is the best place to ride that I have seen in Florida. Once you get off of the main trails there is a ton of single and double track that is a mixture of clay and sand. I also bought an annual pass and cant wait to go back.

    Since your bike is street legal, maybe you could try running some of the double track in ONF. lots of roads/track with very little traffic
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  9. Johno33772

    Johno33772 Johnny Africa

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    Croom ...if you can ride Croom you'll be able to ride anywhere. The North end of the Park is better terrain & less Quads...Watch out for Side by Sides....Croom is now allowing Razor type vehicles in the Park up to 48" wide
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  10. Dr.Z

    Dr.Z 6Sigma Knuckle Shflr

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    Fuuuuck! I thought quads screwed up the trails enough. Now Razor's are allowed? WTF?

    That place is going to be flattened out in no time. :bluduh
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  11. buryurfear14

    buryurfear14 Been here awhile

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    Agreed. That sucks.

    Haven't been to croom for about 7 years but i love the place. If you suck at whoops, you wont after a year riding croom. Park just outside of the campground and you should be able to find some really good trails. We use to make huge circuits back in my ftr days on quads.
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  12. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    WTF??!! That's pretty damn stupid of them. As if the threat of some numbnuts crashing into me with a quad wasn't bad enough? At least most of the side by sides won't be allowed since they tend to be 59" + wide. Let's hope the people at the gate are measuring width.
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  13. Johno33772

    Johno33772 Johnny Africa

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    The State changed the Law to allow SXS up to 48" wide...pressured by Dealers so they can sell SXS & have a place to use them. The Park Rangers are not happy either....keep an eye out at intersections especially.
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    I'd be careful with pressure. I've ridden all over the country and started at Croom 20 years ago, my Dad rode there 30+ years ago, there is still roots and some rocks that will cause flats at lower pressures. I recently rode Ocala on my 950SE and I did not air down from 32psi. It was at least axle deep if not more. The throttle is your friend. Sugar sand tests WFO more than psi, any day
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  15. Flacrusher

    Flacrusher So Many Bikes... So Little time

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    I found this for trails but it looks like a bit of exploring might be in order. 552646_208481349277551_1102189893_n.jpg Anybody got an area they want to suggest?
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  16. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    32psi on a 950 IS 15psi on a 250. :lol3
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  17. buryurfear14

    buryurfear14 Been here awhile

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    From what I remember, If you park at the back where the day use area is marked, you can ride back between tr11-tr16 and find some good flowing trails that aren't completely worked over. Also, If you go SE of that parking area there are a couple small pits with multiple hill climbs in them. Still have a couple scars from whiskey throttling to the top and the bike landing on me lol.

    We used to get out there as soon as the park opened and hit those trails in the back and chase doe around. Some riding I'll never forget!!

    I'm going to have to get back out there...Anyone live within an hour that would like to start going once or twice a month? I'd have to get a new permit. Hows that work with plated bikes? Same as OHV permits? If no one knows I'll call come January when the price drops.
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  18. Dr.Z

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    It's only 2600 acres. :lol3

    Good pits with hill climbs between TR16 and TR15. More pits around the 2nd day use area near the campground.



    I believe if you are going to ride any of the trails in the park, you need a permit whether it's a tagged bike or not.

    FEES! :bluduh

    http://www.freshfromflorida.com/content/download/62942/1443429/FDACS-P-02050.pdf
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  19. davesupreme

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    i used to feel like that when i first started riding dirt at croom.... you gotta start to embrace whoopy single track... and when it gets too whoopy, you just go thru the woods til' you find something that looks better... pretty soon you find a flow.... find some old 'croomerz' and ride w/them for awhile, and you'll start to get it.... the main trails sukk, and way too many quadtards....
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  20. thisguy72

    thisguy72 Still Waves To Scooters

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    I agree with all of the others, go north. Although, there used to be a cool single track trail in the woods just north of the main sand pit as well.
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