CT110 Type Bike?

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  1. brian72

    brian72 URBEX

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    I just saw the Honda CT110 thread. What an awesome machine!

    Is there anything similar being produced and sold in the U.S. today?

    100-300 cc dirt oriented maybe high pipe as well? Any brand.

    I'm in the process of turning a '01 Savage into a scrambler. But to be honest, something like the CT110 is more appealing to me than the amount of work I have ahead in the conversion I've started.

    Thank you.
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  2. MotoRandy123

    MotoRandy123 Been here awhile

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    Nope there is nothing new like it. Though you can build a nice modern version.
    Just get a CT90 or CT110 frame and pop a Lifan 125 on it like this;

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    Some better shocks and forks and your good to go!
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  3. hugemoth

    hugemoth Long timer

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    Yes, you can have a great little bike for not a lot of money by finding a CT90 and putting a Lifan engine in it. Mine has a 140cc which is great for off road but a 125 would probably be better for on road because of it's torque/hp curve. I ride mine almost every day and it now has over 10,000 trouble free miles.

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  4. tuna101

    tuna101 Been here awhile

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    You could just buy a nice 90 or 110. there out there. Simple to work on and plenty of parts around.
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  5. fullmetalscooter

    fullmetalscooter Let me take this duck off

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    yep sym 110 cc clone for 2200 new
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  6. brian72

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    Looks like I've got some research work ahead of me.
    Thanks for the info.
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    =retread= more MPG

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    sym symba, 101cc, has a rack under the rear seat, dennis kirk has tires just like the ct's that fit, dealer not so far from me selling 2012's for 1799.00, dr.atv has ct exhaust and heat sheilds you could make work easily, strip it or leave it to your liking. :D
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  8. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    Wonder if anybody ever tried to build a 250/350cc CT-style bike using one of the spagetti "Harley" horizontal motors...
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  9. windburn

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    The Yamaha TW 200 is on my radar. I like the larger motor, the larger tires, the low seating. They hold value very well. They are $4,500-$5,000 new. I see good low mile used ones for around $2000. Generally I see the Honda, Suzuki, and most Yamaha off road bikes as being too tall for me to reach the ground. With that said I still like Honda CRF250xor the CRF450x.:norton
    I like the Honda XR650L
    And have you seen the new Gold Wing F6B!
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    I still like my Trail 90

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  10. HandKPhil

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    Just my opinion, but a season and a half on CT90's and CT110's was enough for me. They're fun little bikes for what they are, but realistically, they have limited capabilities for what you pay for a decent one. I introduced my then 13 year-old nephew to motorcycling on a CT90 and an ST90, and they performed well for that task.

    Don't get me wrong, they're fun as heck within their limited performance envelope, but you can get way more functionality (and at least as much fun) out of a TW200, XT225, KLR250, DR200, etc.

    If low-speed exploring is your thing, and you're anywhere over 180 lbs., you're probably going to have a better experience on a small dual-sport.
    As far as cool-factor goes, a CT90 is hard to beat, but a TW200 is pretty darn cool too.

    I paid $1250 for a nice '03 KLR250 a few years ago, and I've put thousands of enjoyable miles on it. I still have it, and I will probably own it for a long time. It starts in one kick, and it has a suspension designed for a grown man. Top speed is a true 75 mph. It'll do 65 all day. My knees do not hit the handlebars when I turn, and it doesn't bottom out the rear suspension when driving off of a curb.

    I paid $1500 for a minty '79 CT90. It was cool-looking, and hit about 44 mph on a good day. My CT110 would hit 50 mph. Both had weak engines, weak suspensions, weak brakes, poor lighting, etc.
    I get that you don't have to go fast to have fun or enjoy the scenery, but why handicap yourself with inferior performance? Again, just my opinion. YMMV.
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  11. yooperbikemike

    yooperbikemike high, wide and handsome

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    CT70 with a CB175 motor

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  12. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    :eek1Whoa, now that's cool...
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  13. JerryH

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    There are better bikes available (I have a highly modified XT225) but I would easily trade it for a brand new Honda CT110. The XT is about as tame as you can get for a dual sport bike ( I have nearly $1000 worth of suspension, a 4 gallon Clark tank, kickstarter, centerstand, custom built rack, Renthal bars 2" higher, FMF Powercore pipe, reworked carb, and a few other goodies) It is freeway legal, but too uncomfortable to ride very far on the road. I like to do light trail riding, and a CT110 with a dual range transmission, extra fuel capacity, and a centerstand would fit the bill perfectly. And being a stepthrough, it would be a lot easier to get on and off of.

    The TW200 is a cool bike, a lot lower than an XT, but it has those huge tires, and they have tubes in them. There is no centerstand. I have rarely gone off road riding when I did not have a flat, and I don't think it would be fun on a TW200. I even tried a quad, but couldn't get used to 4 wheels, and you had to haul it to where you wanted to ride it.
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  14. tuna101

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    Jerry, I have both a CT110 & XT225 and I've found they both excel, but in different situations, love um both for different styles of riding.
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    Do you happen to have a thread somewhere documenting the swap? I've been considering putting the 140 in my own bike but the list of additional "suggested" parts on the DrATV site total almost $400 on top of the motor itself.

    For as common a swap as it appears to be, I can't seem to locate a good step-by-step for the process.
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  16. MotoRandy123

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    I agree there seems to be lots of information until you look closely. I'd stay away from the 140 as it needs an oil cooler and the one that comes with it is problematic so you need to get some good hydraulic lines made. And I have heard of cranks breaking as well as kickstarts on those.

    I'd get the 125 full kit to start with and just deal with the problems as they crop up. I had to get a 10mm drill to mount the motor and now find the DR's braket will be easier than drilling new bottom mount holes (unfortunately they are temporarily unavailable!) . Next I will look at the footpeg mounts. No one seems to know what new ones will work, they just cut and weld or something but that's not an option for me...
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  17. hugemoth

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    I didn't document the 140 install but there is a lot of info on http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/honda_clone

    If you are good at do it yourself projects and have access to a 4" angle grinder and welder then there isn't a lot of expense beyond the engine. Air filter, pit bike exhaust, quality oil cooler lines, 12V bulbs, clutch cable and lever if your bikes doesn't have a left side lever. Pit bike parts on eBay are cheap.

    The Lifan 140 is a great engine but it does have some quirks. Because of the long stroke it tends to kick back if you don't start it properly. Requires 91 octane fuel unless you are riding at over 5000'. Needs the oil cooler. But the tractor like low RPM torque for off road riding is fantastic. The stories about broken cranks on the 140 are from racing use and over reving, it's a 8000 RPM engine not a 10,000 RPM engine. For on road I would go with the 125 that would probably give you about the same top speed.

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    now that is a custom bike

    well done
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    GR0NK Got some screws loose!

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    Doesn't come dirt oriented stock but I've seen them fitted with knobbies. The cool thing about these is that the aftermarket has a lot of performance parts available, all the way up to 180+cc 4 valve motors with 25+ hp capable of over 75mph. Granted the extreme is not a motor built for longevity but there is an area of compromise in there where you can have a bike that can easily keep up to fast traffic and still get 75+ mpg. If you don't want to start with an original CT, this is the closest thing I've seen as far as design goes.


    Sean :bmwrider:
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