Curious - Burgman 400

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by The PacRat, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. The PacRat

    The PacRat I'm that other guy

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    I was wondering if some BurgieFan could answer a few basic questions about the 400?

    1) Bike weight?

    2) Top speed?

    3) Average MPGs?

    4) Stable in crosswinds? Buffeting on the freeway much?

    5) Okay for 6'3" rider?

    6) How much crap can you stuff in the trunk?

    7) Maintenance?

    8) Any years to avoid?

    9) Known issues?

    10) Why do you love it?

    Just interested in info on the 400 right now - THANKS
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  2. leewildwater

    leewildwater rrrrRide Man rrrrRide

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    Get one asap. I have a '05

    I am 6'2" and 240#

    Buy a givi tall windscreen if over 6'. The givi reduces buffering and gives more hand protection

    plenty of trunk space but I added a ghetto milk crate to the back of mine along with saddlebags and I got a buncha buncha room.

    I got it ride worthy after it caught fire over a year ago. Battery bolt came loose and arch ignited gas fumes while re-fueling. It was something like this :kboom
    It looks like hell but I ride it all the time and I DO NOT worry about how it looks, as long as it goes. Got rid of some of the tupperware plastic, mostly the bottom and that has made servicing it much easier. Not that it took that much.

    Gets 50-60 mpg and I twist it pretty hard and is heavily loaded.

    I have 20k miles, no problems except the fire. Do a tune up bout once year to check valves and oil change using Mobil 1 throw in a new plug. I go on gravel roads a fair bit with it so check/clean air filter often.

    Have gone thru one set brake pads about 3-4 rear tires and a couple fronts. No other items replaced, but I do have an extra drive belt in the truck.



    Handles great in the WNC mountains and have embrassed more than one sportbike riders. I much perfer the 400 over the 650. Light is right, nimble is better than bulkier and Blue Ridge Parkyway, twisty roads, and back roads are so much more fun on the 400 than a 650 on a interstate slab.

    Watch craigslist and ebay. Easy to find big savings on used ones. Seems a lot of older folks get them and then lose interest or think they need something bigger. I got mine a couple years old with only 1,500 miles and pristine condition.

    Get one soon sums it up:clap
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  3. White Tenere

    White Tenere Look a moose

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    Thats got to be one of the best quote's....EVER!! :lol3 :clap
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  4. btcn

    btcn Long timer

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    1) Around 474 pounds

    2) In between 95 and 105 mph

    3) 50-65 mpg

    4) Very stable do to heavy weight

    5) It should be fine.

    6) There is big storage under the seat and even more in the glovebox, plus you can buy a rear trunk.

    7) Pretty low.

    8) Not in particular.

    9) No major problems I know of.

    10) They are awesome, get better fuel economy than the 650, and have great acceleration and are fine on the freeway.
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  5. emmettken

    emmettken Long timer

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  6. tumbleweed40

    tumbleweed40 Adventurer

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    can you post a photo?
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  7. The PacRat

    The PacRat I'm that other guy

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    I hear they have the biggest storage available - can someone post a pic of the trunk?
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  8. emmettken

    emmettken Long timer

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    More space behind the beer.:beer
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  9. The PacRat

    The PacRat I'm that other guy

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    That's COOL Emmettken -

    My current ride is an old Pacific Coast. Though I am interested in other bikes (always) there is NO WAY I would buy another bike that didn't have a good sized trunk.

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  10. 777arkrider

    777arkrider Confused and jet-lagged

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    I recently bought a silver 2009 Burgman 400 and really enjoy riding it. To me, it is the (almost) perfect, do anything, two wheeled commuter or recreational bike. It is the Kawasaki Ninja 250 of the scooter world. It will cruise all day at 70 mph+, I consistantly get 68 mpg, is light and reasonably flickable on the twisties and is just a real blast to go out and just do hassle free riding. It has a very comfortable riding position and I can ride all day without feeling beat up. (I am 5'10" and weigh 165 lbs with a 30" inseam).
    It has excellent underseat storage, excellent fit and finish, and would provide many enjoyable trouble free miles.
    I test rode many motorcycles and maxi-scooters before I chose the Burgman 400 including the Burgman 650. There was always at least one defect that helped eliminate all my other choices. For example, the Yamaha Majesty was excellent to me in just about every area except its MPG is lower than the the Burgman by quite a bit at about 50 MPG. The Kymco Xciting 500 was a strong bike but for me was uncomfortable. Its seat was hard and it didn't fit my body with a high seating position and little leg room and has a dificult to read instruments and an unusable gas gauge. The Tmax was a blast to ride but had very little storage and the price vs. benefit didn't make sense. I quickly eliminated almost all the 250cc scooters because to me, they felt too small and lacked power for riding cross country (just my opinion, there are exceptions).
    There are many motorcycles that outperform the Burgman 400 in almost every way but I had to chose one or the other and went with the Burgman 400 and I am very happy with that and have no regrets.
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  11. ZZR_Ron

    ZZR_Ron Looking up

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    27k km on our Burger 400...mostly two up.

    Only problems have been a cracked exhaust header, (speed bump in a parking lot), and a worn out rear tire stopped us for a few days one time.

    The Bridgestone last was better than the Avon's I bought the last time.

    The tire probably wouldn't have been a big problem, but we were in the middle of nowhere.


    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262142
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  12. spiritus

    spiritus Cruiser

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    Awesome space!
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  13. Dabears

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    You guys with Burgman 400s- Have any of you owned smaller (150-300 cc) scooters?

    I ask because the Burgman seems like a great maxi scooter, but at 474 pounds it's a hefty son of a gun. Do you feel like you've traded off all the urban mobility of a smaller vespa size scooter to get the benefits of the larger size? Do you use these to commute or are they joy ride machines?

    In other words I could see a Burgman replacing my BMW for most things, but I'm not sure it would work as a replacement for my scooter. Thoughts?
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  14. The PacRat

    The PacRat I'm that other guy

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    I get the feeling that those who ride Maxis are trading down from motorcycles to gain the practicality of a scooter.

    In my case I'd be thinking, "ALLRIGHT! This Burgman is 200lbs LESS than my Pacific Coast!"

    My Reflex was downright TINY. (even thought it really is a pretty bike scoot)
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  15. emmettken

    emmettken Long timer

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    You should go test ride a Burgman 400. They do not feel heavy. All their weight, motor and gas tank, are down low. My last 2 rides were duel sport bikes. A Kawasaki KLR 650 and a BMW R100GSPD. With their big tanks they felt top heavy. I'm retired. I use my Burgman 400 for around town, twisty mountain highways, freeway, what ever. I've had smaller motorcycles but not scooters. I've been watching for a good deal on a smaller scoot just cause they look like so much fun,but I would keep my Burgman.
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  16. 777arkrider

    777arkrider Confused and jet-lagged

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    I had a Kymco 200S before I had the Burgman. The Kymco was a great scooter and would make a nearly perfect urban commuter. If all you did was in town, under 50 mph than it would make a great little commuter. I live in the Pacific Northwest, on a tiny island (connects to the mainland by a bridge) and have to ride 25 miles to get to the next town. Most of the roads are 50 mph or higher and the little Kymco could get up to 60 but it was at full throttle and the wind blast from other cars and trucks really blew you around. So for me, the larger scooters made more sense. I love motorcycles but the maxiscooter is more practical for me. My Burgman also gets 68 mpg at 70 mph and the little Kymco got 65 at 55 mph. The Kymco was a lot easier to move around in the garage and parking lots so I have learned to work around the weight issue and it really isn't a problem.
    I was considering a 250cc sized scooter until a test rode some and the Burgman is a better fit for me and the type of riding I do.
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  17. GoO2

    GoO2 n00b

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    I have 5 bikes. An old Maxim x, Concours, KLR, and 2 scoots a Aprilia Scarabeo 150 and a Burgman 400S. Each is so unique.

    The beo 150 is a full sized scoot. Has motorcycle sized tires, (I have a 30" inseam and can't flat foot it),is a lighter bike, has a stock high performance rotax 150cc that will cruise all day at 60mph (tops at about 70 under the right conditions, GPS).

    Now the Burg 400 is a sweet scoot (both scoots are my wife's, but I like to drive them to). My Son and I just did a 3.2K tour (1 week), me on the connie and him on the burg. We would do it again. It would cruise at any speeds asked. We tried to stay on 2 lane but a few times had to hop on the super slab, worst section being I 76/80 heading east out of Denver traffic flows at 80mph, no problems. Scoot tops out at about 100mph, although acceleration is slow from 70mph up. Did the mountains with no problems. Elevations up to around 12K. My son is 6' @185lbs and bike was loaded with gear on top and trunk was loaded. The trunk is great on this bike. Holds a ton.

    I don't think there are any major issues with any years. The speedo has a plastic "gear" the separates by the hub. Easily fixed with superglue or a new one that costs about 15$ and takes about 30" to fix. But the 07's on are a little bit more improved (refined). My 06 (like all pre 07s) have on the maintenance schedule for the valves to be adjusted every 3k I believe. A little labor intensive, but not hard at, all even with a little knowledge. Would be expensive if you drove it allot and followed there recommendation and took it to the shop to have it done. Most people have tripled the milage distance between adjustments with no problems. The 07 and beyond has a larger gap between adjustments. Tires on the 07 and up are bigger which is a plus although the smaller ones on my 06 didn't bother me at all, thought it might. The milage averaged from about 55mpg at about 75mph to 70mpg averaging 60mph . Around town usually around 60-65mpg. This thing handles great, low center of gravity very nimble. My son outrides me in the twistes with this thing.
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  18. MQracing

    MQracing Been here awhile

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    I have several motorcycles in my stables. If (by the force of some malevolent spirit) I had to choose just one bike to keep it would most likely be the Burg 400.

    Though no where near as capable of the break neck speeds of my 955i nor can it compete with the Uly XT in terms of storage room--- but the Burg 400 does everything so well--- great for in town (big urban area) as well as comfortable on the highway.

    It's got the right combination of weight, power, storage, low maintenance, and ease of riding that IMO makes it perhaps the best buy I've ever done with respect to motorbikes.

    I don't get nearly the mileage others claim (mine's a K7) and I have to nurse it a bit on the highway to get my best mileage to date of 63 mpg. But I probably twist the throttle too quickly, too often :wink:

    And it's fun (I know I shouldn't do this) to frustrate any number of sport bikes from stoplight to stoplight in the city. This thing positively scoots off the line in a hurry if you twist the go-go enough.

    Great, great bike. Wouldn't want to be without it.
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  19. Coopdway

    Coopdway Curiouser

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    Kindred spirits...and I don't even have one. I consider my Helix to be ~90% of what MQr values in his Burgman and since I still do have other things in the garage, I'm going to get away with continuing to say it.

    If I had to boil them all down to one, it would be a 400 Burgie. It was the afore mentioned mileage that made me strongly consider the Helix and finally sent me that way. Now if there were a 300 Burgie.......no contest.
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  20. jesionowski

    jesionowski Chicagoland Burgman

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    I have a Honda Shadow 750, A Burgman 400K7, and a Kymco Agility 125. I am trying to sell the Honda, And I could see the Burgman as my only bike someday, but the Agility 125 is just so easy for running errands...have a top case. I also have complete confidence in taking the Burgman on a 500 mile day and just pounding it all day long. The heavy weight of the burgman can sneak up on you because its so well balance you do forget it is almost 500lbs. My used Burgman and new Kymco set me back a total of just under 6k so why not have both.
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