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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Thanantos, Jul 22, 2013.
And I guess blind people don't step out in front of electric cars.
After reading this thread I put my stock exhaust back on my 450X this afternoon.
I feel bad for the people that live in the canyon I have to drive up every day listening to a modified, unbaffled 450X exhaust at 7:30 in the morning, and 11:00 or later at night.
I know the Harleys are worse than me by a long shot, not to mention the diesel ass holes... Be the change you wanna see in the world, right?
We'll see if I die next week.
Also; fixed my electric start today. Sweet.
Sounds like you don't actually know Ari Henning at all. His personal bikes are not race bikes.
BMW's aren't known for loud pipes but over the years all the baffles have been deleted from the mufflers on my old r100/7. I've asked lots of people, including neighbours if the noise level is offensive (and they own horses) and they all say that it's ok!
Two things; ever since the baffles have gone I've not had issue with animals suiciding in front of me (no, I don't rely on it ) and it makes me ride nicely (quietly/conservatively) in town. I've worn earplugs for years and to be honest when I can afford them I'll put some new quite mufflers back on.
There are indeed people who think a loud exhaust will save their lives, actually, yeah. I knew one of them before a left turning taxicab killed him.
Now before anyone starts trying to map out my stance, I'll make it clear right in advance. I am one of the most anti- loud pipe people you're going to find here or anywhere else.
But I will also admit that the concept of noise visibility is not a farce. It probably does help somewhat. Denying it, insisting it's useless because the NHTSA never verified it in a scientific study, whatever, is just stupid. There is nothing unreasonable about thinking that if you're making a fuckload of noise, people are gonna hear you and at least some of them might make considerations for you.
Hell, that's the basis for how HORNS work! Something happens, you honk your horn, hopefully you get a reaction. See? Noise... Reaction! Simple, right?
Now when I use the term "you" it is the royal you - the folks here who think loud pipes are a fine and dandy idea. It doesn't have to be you specifically, Eric, unless of course you think it applies...
So the problem with loud pipes on public roadways is, unlike a horn they are always making a racket. So the net effect is they make you a fucking obnoxious piece of shit who doesn't give a shit about the rights of others and has no place living in our society.
And I'm not really saying it to be mean. It's just the way it is.
Would you even dream of having your horn blasting all the time? No of course not. So what makes your exhaust system so special? What makes you feel so entitled?
If you have loud pipes you can attempt to assuage your guilt by saying things like "I tone it down in town". But all that does is make you ever so slightly less of a douche who thinks that people who live near hills or major roads should move so you can feel like your life is going to be saved by your faggy exhaust pipes.
Most of the people who end up being bombarded by your noise pose no threat to you. People in their homes trying to sleep, read a book, watch TV, listen to some nice music, do some work, talk on the phone or talk to their family without being interrupted every time some inconsiderate shithead motorcyclist goes by. People in schools trying to listen to their teachers. Patients in hospitals already facing an impossible cacophony of beeps, boops and dings from the telemetry equipment and the psych patients yelling down the hall. A family taking a stroll. Shopkeepers talking to shoppers. Folks at the beach or in their yards quietly taking in the sun. Even the occupants of the vehicles two lanes over or the folks going the other way on a divided highway. None of these people want or deserve the noise you are forcing upon them.
Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. once wrote: "your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins." You may not see it but that noise you make, that's your fist. And once that noise reaches my ears or anyone else's it is your obligation to pull it back. It is an intrusion and essentially an assault. It is not your right to subject people to it and it is not your right to insist that they be the ones to move, plug their ears, beef up their walls and windows or make any other consideration for it at all.
If you think your life is that much more important than the sanity of everyone around you then you need to find another country to live in. Someplace a little less democratic. Maybe the folks of Afghanistan might put up with your shit.
+1 for truth
AND they're faggots.
Does he still count, just busting; sorry your friend died.
I had to post here. Check out my sig.
So who is Jason Bouren?
Lol. Nothing like calling your shot and going down looking.
One of the Village People?:ymca
Here he iz...
It's misspelled. I believe it's a reference to the Matt Damon movie. Jason Bourne.
that's a needed P.C. answer as they promote all types bikes.
trust me that paragraph was well worded.
We know, we are just messing with Hair!
Also three books written by Robert Ludlum, which are quite a bit different from the movies.
I knew what he meant, but he deserves ridicule for that comment, when the spelling was screwed up like that. Bouren?
Whenever someone says "I'm light on the throttle in town", my thought is yeah, thanks ... we get full benefit of the noise not living in town.
Some folks have no consideration or common sense when it comes to exhausts or lights, and fail to grasp that they can go too far. The exhaust on my bike is louder than stock, but its not loud.
Sometimes I can hear Harleys and sport bikes going through their gears for at least a mile or more when sitting in our house, that's just selfish.
Very well put!