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Discussion in 'Racing' started by doyle, Jan 1, 2013.
Nicely put there Troy
Got a newbie question. Is there a reason for some of the cars not turning on their warning systems when coming up behind another vehicle esp a bike.
yup i did... and he does... he obviously hasn't been taking the same diplomacy lessons as TSC!!
He didn't quite use the C word though - either one of them!
Both end in a T but one has four letters and one five
The bike will hold up, I done his engines and suspension :) We had a little Slovakian / Norwegian cooperation :)
you could tell he was thinking both of them tho!
Today's stage SS4: Nazca->Arequipa
I'm seeing 8 waypoints and probably 2 checkpoints, although they aren't listed (yet) on the manual tracker list.
With the refuel point aka HondaHeaven at KM173, we can expect a 15 minute neutralization stop.
Early start for the bikes today at 0545 local. It's now <iframe src="http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i3fyrrzo/n131" frameborder="0" width="82" height="18"></iframe>, so they're off in an hour.
Today's tracker links:
(Please conserve bandwidth on the above links, close tabs when not in use, easy on the F5ing!)
Dakar.com live tracker
Dakar.com manual tracker and CP list.
Gutted for Don, the poor guy can't catch a break in Dakar.
Great roundup / intro Flood, unfortunately the manual tracking on the Dakar site has no CP intermediate links :huh
Can anyone tell me why Andrew Scott is showing in 6th. Did I miss something?
Official statement from ASO
The race officials for the car category,After having examined the report made by the Race Director,After discussions with the Race Director,After discussions with competitor number 303,After discussions with technical service provider ERTF,Have taken the following decision:Cancelation of the decision taken previously by the Race Management, on the following basis:The Race Management took its decision on 6th January 2013 further to a claim from competitor 303 on the basis of partial technical analysis proving that the main GPS experienced malfunctions.Comprehensive and more detailed analysis, based on the final report made by ERTF, in fact revealed that the second GPS was functioning correctly.
Someone mentioned it will apply to Nasser as well?
oh cool. I'll try but still a damn shame we in the north are locked out of watching good feed from the UK, Europe, Australia, etc.
In my view, Dakar isn't growing or evolving in the strict sense.
It's pampering to the sponsors, business and lowest common denominator in the audience.
Sadly, this is what all of us in the Western world except as normal and as a only way a world can work.
What's next? More of the same ... Morphing into a perfect consumer product.
Good day all.
Bikes are hitting the liaison in about 30 minutes and when those dune decants come I'm shutting my eyes.
Okay, thanks for the graphics f5lood was just looking for them...
how do the top ten lay up tactic's today?
Chaleco leads out today, with Despres two spots back in Pos 3., but holding @ 3 min lead o/a to the Chilebean who is 2nd currently. If Despres puts a bead on Lopez in the opening 19 to 40 kms (some tough dunes)... he can track the two wheel tracks ahead, then he picks up effectively 7 minute buffer total on Chaleco and can control him from behind.
Keep an eye out you f5 WP hunters at the 39 km mark... where the moto course diverts from the auto route (remember Coma's boo boo out front in argentina a couple years back, where the course did similar... went wrong way for a bit and handed CDP the upper glove? )
There could be a degree of confusion in the 39 to 51 km sector, where it's MOTO only route (technical?) and looks like they drop off the face of the planet to rejoin the course proper! :eek1
Pål Anders Ovenwoolmittens is in third spot overall and only 5 minutes off CDP outright lead. With a start pos of 10, today he is the last of the two minute start gap riders, and if he manages his day well, is optimally placed to pick off five or six riders, which will translate to another top five stage result and strengthen his title bid. he like tough days as well... as his Swedish neighbours would say; "en seg jävel...!"
Similarly Oliver growing Pains in 4th overall on the Yamaha... has a good opportunity today to stamp his name on something, along with yamaha colleagues Casteau and Verhoven (although probably a little tender after yesterdays boulder bowling session). I Yamaha make a move today, THEY could be the ones to take it to KTM and keep the pressure on thru to rest day for remainder of week one...
Viladoms also - the hopes of husqvarna lie with their "best customer" (in 8th general classification currently 9 minutes off Cyrils lead) and Botturi in 11th only two minutes further back in overall terms.
After the intitial pummeling in the first 80 km's... things settle down (relatively speaking) from @ the 110 km mark through to CP/fuel at 233 km...
Then 12 km after the restart (fuel zones are a fifteen minute nutralization where riders only can fuel/re-water themselves... no outside service) is a BIG F5-ing uphill!!! :eek1:eek1:eek1
Then the ASS at 288 km... who will have theirs handed to them today...?
Tune in to f5 broadcasting and f5ind the f5¤% out...!
just watched the robbie vid.
amongst all the other intersting stuff in it.
the big down hill was there.
that must of been the one Pual Smith GHR honda quad said he couldnt slow down enough on and plowed into the rocks.
the rocks on all other coverage looked like gibbers/normal boondies but in the RG vid, you can see thay they are large misshapen things spread aboud in the sand. odds are your going to hit a few on good day.
now put youself on a desert sled heavy with fuel tools and spares with poxy desert tyres, on the throttle a bit all the way to keep the front from knifing (and endoing like the other rider) all the time gaining speed for the G out/transition into the rocks at the bottom.
no need to also mention the fans with cameras and the chopper also running interference.
This stage looks like a winner.
WP4-5 should be interesting but 8 -ASS will be nasty.
troy, you left out "Barrelling" Barreda Bort.... starting 20 minutes down from the leader... and i'm sure he'll be wanting to make up time. you would think without nav to worry too much about he could put in some decent times.
Don't know if it means anything, but Don Hatton is listed with a starting time for Stage 4 and is not listed in the withdrawals as yet.
It takes some time until riders are listed among the withdrawals.
Si Pavey just posted:
Stage Three Pisco to Nazca 328 KM
Team Delta Kunststoffe Husqvarna UK suffers some bad luck in a difficult and dangerous stage three as the race makes its way toward the famous city of Nazca.
Stage three proved to be another difficult stage, with big dunes, soft sand and fesh fesh causing many of competitors problems over the stage. The seemingly short day of 280km proved to be deceivingly difficult.
Despite the nature of the stage, Simon had another steady day as he rode within himself to take 69th place on the stage. Uncomfortable with a lot of the terrain during the stage Simon elected to take the cautious approach as the stage was littered with hidden holes and steep dunes.
However, Canadian Don Hatton was involved in a freak incident. Working through the difficult sands of the stage Don was involved in an incident with a truck that saw some damage to his bike. The incident appeared to have damaged his gear selector, leaving him with difficulty changing gear. Don struggled on through the difficult riding attempting to nurse his bike to end of the special stage but the selector finally stopped choosing gear just 4km from the end of the special. Despite hours of trying to get out of the sand, his bike stuck in neutral, and attempting to convince the organisers to tow him the last part of the stage Don was forced to retire at 1:00 am local time.
Simon Pavey Today was tough again, some of the riding was technical, more so then we have had so far. I wasnt comfortable to ride fast today at all, I really took my time. I stopped twice for a few minutes to fix a problem with my hydration pack as well and on Dakar stopping for just a few minutes costs you 20 places.
The terrain on the stage was treacherous again today, there were lots of hidden dangers out there and it was the type stage that could easily bite you. I was lucky to be relatively near the front of the race today too, there was a chunk of fesh fesh toward the end of the stage, but when I got there I was still able to pick a clean line and ride on the crust.
Once again my bike felt really good, Im finding it strange to have a bike thats so good for racing, its much more than Ive had in rallys before and because it wants to be raced it can be a little tiring. Its a new style of Dakar that has developed over the last couple of years; it takes some adjusting to get used too. The rally still hasnt really begun yet though, weve got eleven days left so well just take each day as it comes.
Stage four of the Dakar is the first long stage of the race, made up of a tough 288km special stage followed by a gruelling 429km liaison to reach the town of Arequipa.
Stage Three Results.
70. Simon Pavey 03:26:11
Don Hatton Retired
56. Simon Pavey 07:29:56
Don Hatton Retired