Dakar 2013 - Official Event Coverage - thank you ALL TeamF5, lurkers and posters!

Discussion in 'Racing' started by doyle, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    That works well for technical regulations (pertaining to the modifications/alterations performance enhancements permitted to the vehicles themselves) agreed... You'd be no doubt familiar with a motorsport/racing rule book clause along the lines of; modifications to competing vehicles are limited to those as expressly outlined and permitted by these regulations. All other modification NOT specifically referred to in these reg's are strictly prohibited.

    Enforcing such a clause for standard regulations (those with regards the running of actual event) is considerably more difficult to define and enforce, given that the variables (out in the real world) are so far greater and unpredictable.
  2. wrk2surf

    wrk2surf on the gas or brakes

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  3. Trang

    Trang ... 2nd last to the Sweep

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    I certainly get the jist of what you are saying here Troy, but i couldn't help myself from laughing at what you had written. :deal

    The thought of some poor 'enterprising' South American chap, who spent his entire life fortune, and mortgaged his grandmothers house for this purpose:

    Him: Señor, KTM parts?
    Entrant: You bet mate, i need a barrell and a piston for a 450RR?
    Him: Yes señor, KTM 690, no?
    Entrant: Um ...., sorry mate, no can do!

    :evil
  4. rwell

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  5. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    :lol3:lol3:lol3 Enriques Churro's and KTM parts emporium. (sign) :deal

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    "Sorry... out of business... ASO'les!" :rofl
  6. kaia

    kaia team F5 ⌘R

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    more webventure.com.br photos from stage 5... all cars and trucks; no bike photos posted yet. :cry -->> all posted in the Dakar 2013 Media thread.



    cars
    #314 - BORIS GARAFULIC (CHL) / GILLES PICARD (FRA)
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    #302 - STÉPHANE PETERHANSEL (FRA) / JEAN PAUL COTTRET (FRA)
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    #311 - GUILHERME SPINELLI (BRA) / YOUSSEF HADDAD (BRA)
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    #305 - JOAN (NANI) ROMA (ESP) / MICHEL PÉRIN (FRA)
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    #302 - STÉPHANE PETERHANSEL (FRA) / JEAN PAUL COTTRET (FRA)
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    trucks

    #504 - HANS STACEY (NLD) / DETLEF RUF (DEU) / BERNARD DER KINDEREN (NLD)
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    why are you still here? many more photos are posted in the Dakar 2013 Media thread. :D
  7. rwell

    rwell Adventurer

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    Very well worded Troy, It hit me right in the feels :cry
    Thanks for the 13,000 posts and to everyone else on here, as a lurker it really amazes me how you guys keep up and have the time to write such amazing posts:clap
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  9. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    I watched the Dakar each year through the 90's catching it on Speedvision, never religiously and at the time, my interest was in F1 and GT road racing. I used to watch Dakar for the cars and the trucks, those giant trucks.

    In the 2004 coverage, something caught my eye, a KTM 660. WTF is that I thought. That looked cool so an internet search later I happened upon ADVrider and joined up to find out more about this bike...and then I was completely hooked.

    Back then, the bivouac stories came three weeks later when Charlie chimed in with a post or two. Eurosport coverage was unobtanium in the states. and we would lap up every ounce of information we could get. 2005 was the first I followed with a real passion for it, the rules, the route, the riders. From that point on, the car race means very little to me. I don't even bother looking at the rankings. We learned the posis lists, the little tricks like when the French version of the list would update a minute or two before the english version as we formulated the early days of F5orce as a race to post the information of who was at what CP or WP. We had maps and tracks to see the route and the rider on that route (if it actually was working).

    Charlie Rauseo and Roaring Horse, Scot Harden were our direct connections to the race as well as the rare post by Jimmy Lewis. It grew each year as we got better and more organized at sourcing the information, but it still mostly came from dakar.com. There was no twitter or FB or separate trackers, no Eurosport or France4, no youtube.

    Now, quite frankly I've given up trying to keep up from a posting perspective. I lurk through every post, read all the information, but my output is usually twitter and my blog as so many others have joined the fray here and taken the reins. Quite frankly, the pace is that of the US debt, it has taken on a life of it's own and with my new job this year, I simply can't take two weeks of "inter-office personal days" as much as I used to.

    I love every minute of it though between the real time aspect of knowing the exact moment that Chavo has stopped for McDonald's on the liaison, to video of RG rolling in the middle of nowhere getting posted to the web within 15 minutes, it is impossible to consume it all without being overwhelmed. I've come to discover that I enjoy writing about it, I try to keep up with my wrap ups and try to dig into stories that are a little more technical or that catch my eye as needing more depth rather than the play by play anymore although via twitter, I try to feed the minute by minute happenings and this year over other, the positive response has been both humbling and overwhelming. Like others, I have no one in the real world to discuss this with. My wife sees the obsession for two weeks each year and tolerates it, but it's my "hobby" and my little dork blog". People at work see my wallpaper and ask if it's me...if they only knew how much I wished it was.

    This thread is so much fun each year and I am honored to have somewhat fallen into the old guard of starting it and it's such a great feeling to see how everyone has adopted into the process and have run with it. Just looking at the stats of how the thread grows each year over year is stunning. We are doing in a day what we did for the entire two weeks back in 2005 and 2006.

    After all of that, I'll never forget Packmule calling me up on the first day of the 2008 rally as I was walking to my car for work and breaking the news that the whole thing was cancelled. Gutted.
  10. KTMInduro

    KTMInduro Off Road Montster

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    Just want to say to Troy, Ned, PM, Doyle and all you others who know so much about the race - Thanks for making this thread such an exciting place to be at this time of year, every year. I've lurked as a silent member of F5 for quite a few years now. Really appreciate all you do here guys.
    My mates just don't get it why I sit up to 3am every morning every year in January pressing F5 on my keyboard.:rofl
    Glad to hang out with a bunch of people who do !:thumb

    Cheers guys. To Team f5 :1drink
  11. cyborg

    cyborg Potius Sero Quam Numquam

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    5 bike brands in the Top 10. I'd says that's a pretty good showing of the diversity the 450 class is bringing.
  12. 640 Armageddon

    640 Armageddon Do or Do Not. There is no try.

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    This thread keeps getting better and better :clap , got up, 20 pages behind :1drink
    Have no idea why I go to sleep (or to work) while Dakar is on :bluduh ...
  13. Carlos M

    Carlos M www.motoxplorers.com

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    It's like reaching a Waypoint. You leave the roadbook (the main thread here) and go for it following the GPS (VLC Myway's playist) :D The firehose was getting too easy, so the F5 organizers put up this streaming video chase to spice things up :D

    Morning everyone :sip (and good night for the ones across the globe).
  14. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    This single sentence, and the sentiment implied, is the very explanation for mudgate and mostly the context through which I view that incident. I know a lot of Despres haters piled on him for unsporting behavior, but I still think, what we saw at that moment, as the red mist is falling, was Cyril's raw emotions taking control in a rare, internal coup d'etat, from his usual, cerebral internal ruler. There he was, 2nd on stage, stuck knowing that Coma was not and therefore pulling away and Despres' overall lead with him. I can see how in the moment, with the relative shock of being stopped and thrown from top speed, coupled with the sense that your rally and all you've prepared for it was slipping away, it's easy to envision a slightly panicked, somewhat irrational Despres doing whatever he could to get away.

    Barreda's comment is what really sums it up for me. Knowing how hard he has worked this year, how much time and effort and dedication, to lose all that to a fuel pump must be heartbreaking, but he'll go on to fight another day, another rally.
  15. orlando_orange

    orlando_orange deslyxic tepyr

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    rolled out of the bivouac feeling like crap this morning... luckily sue to the prep last night i only have 20 pages to catch up on.... now where's me french dictionary for the F4 coverage....
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    K2vodka Been here awhile

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    Sports coverage in Europe tends to be better than the US which is rather humorous considering Hollywood is on the cutting edge of entertainment. If there is commercial interruptions somehow the Euro's figured out to use picture in picture for commercials so you can watch the event without missing a lap and they can get paid for showing the commercial. It is rocket science to US networks.

    In some places during F1 races there were no commercials.

    Well, the US has been economically more successful because the general premiss is the dollar is king and it rules all. This in turn has led to the soul being lost in many things. Think of the cars from the late '70's until probably a decade or so ago. Even currently the best looking American cars tend to be modernized copies of hot cars from the '60's and early '70's.

    Many immigrants I've met are surprised at the priorities in the States. Again, economic dominance is at a cost of leisure and worker security. Life is full of trade offs.

    Sorry! Don't want to take this great coverage in the wrong direction.

    ADVrider is an example of the revolution occurring and we are lucky to be wise to it... or maybe we are just wiser then most. You choose. :wink:
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  18. orlando_orange

    orlando_orange deslyxic tepyr

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    what?? 22 pages, almost an hour, and only 2 posts added to the f5irehose???

    think the F5 trackers must be off!!
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    orlando_orange deslyxic tepyr

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    have to say there were a lot of well worded and well thought out posts over night - very insightful so thank you all...

    even that one from bluebull about his plans for what sounded like a great party with that other guy, eunuch was it? hope you had fun, but be careful not to do anything to aggravate your injuries... he did sound gently though so you should be okay..
  20. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    ^^^ Day 5 was a good day for HRC... getting stronger as each day goes by... both bikes and team (the riders there was no doubt about) and you can bet they have a fistfull of data at each nite to file and review at a later date.

    JC... what a great ambassador (and rider)- okay he's copped a bit of good natured flack (from me and others) for his cap and waterboy role... but the role he plays is important and he takes it seriously. :thumb

    What a great candid interview he is... the one with him sitting in the middle of the desert the other day, in the shade of his bike with his boots off while waiting for his "care package" to arrive with SPEEDHL. that was just class, he looked like he was in the best place in the world... just kickin' it. The goofy bivouac commisary interviews, or the retrospective comments he gave about the Stage five ride (25th on the day... that baja like terrain he likes :wink:).

    I hope JC is involved with the HRC effort as it moves forward, he has so much to offer... not just as a rider.