Dakar 2013 - Official Event Coverage - thank you ALL TeamF5, lurkers and posters!

Discussion in 'Racing' started by doyle, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. LocuL

    LocuL Gnarly Infantry

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    Cyril declares war. This is going to be fantastic.

    F5-4-EVA
    :freaky
  2. Gian

    Gian dreamer

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    good! After all Mauro Sant is the man that created the bike Manuel is using and a TM unfortunately they have one only rider in the race, as Fesani retired very early. It Looks at TM they have possibly the same HRC problem, fuel pump overheats and so vapor locks. They are trying to move it on a different place, where can breathe a little bit more...
  3. neduro

    neduro Addict Super Moderator

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    Well said, Cyril!

    I thought I'd like the rest day, but I hated it. Don't mind time off the bike, but wondering what's coming next is less fun than finding out...
  4. zenjen

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    The rumor mill that day also stated that the 15 min. penalty was on the books for Dabrowski ( for the day before) and then mysteriously disappeared after it was his motor to be used in the trade. :D

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  5. Brodovitch

    Brodovitch Team ⌘R

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    Anyone else think that Factory KTM are so fucking ninja that they force a B team rider to install a new engine before the marathon stage so that if one of their top guys needs to swap he gets an almost new one?

    Wow I'm impressed

    No idea on the mysterious penalty vanishing though, I missed that...
  6. XSpearsX

    XSpearsX Proud Dakar Wife

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    88 degrees right now in Tucuman on rest day. 12 degrees here at home. If hubby comes home saying how hard he "worked".....might not go over so well with me!
  7. 640 Armageddon

    640 Armageddon Do or Do Not. There is no try.

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    Is that an external or an internal fuel pump ? :huh
  8. redhat

    redhat Been here awhile

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    Have been catching up all day being away yesterday, seems that I have missed something.
    Really loving the great pictures and stories here, and sometimes a conspiracy theory

    I hope the riders are getting enough rest for tomorrows stage, as it will be a long one if it isn't shortened
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    First there is 176km connection, follow by refuel and start of special @ 07:40 local

    WP1 probably together with CP1 @ 39km
    WP2 @ 61km
    WP3 @ 95km
    CP2 @ 121km
    WP4 together with CP2 or @ 131km
    WP5 @ 172km
    WP6 start neutralisation and refuel @ 226km
    Refuel @ 348km
    WP7 and end neutralisation @ 353km
    WP8 @ 377km
    WP9 @ 404km
    WP10 @ 430km
    WP11 @ 461km
    WP12 @ 487km
    CP3 @ 499km
    WP13 @ 515km
    Finish @ 593km

    This followed by another 83km connection for a total of 852km
  9. ric678

    ric678 Been here awhile

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    Dam that's a long day!!
  10. zenjen

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    :zilla It was said all in good fun and not to be taken seriously at all. :D

    But to add to the joke; Cyril stated that he knew the motor and knew it would make the race distance. :dic:patch:dic
  11. Brodovitch

    Brodovitch Team ⌘R

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    No no you misunderstood my post as sarcastic - I genuinely wonder if the factory boys had it all planned out. It's a racing tactic which I would have never thought of or heard of before, yet it makes perfect sense.
  12. 640 Armageddon

    640 Armageddon Do or Do Not. There is no try.

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    I think they did not do it this year. They were caught out as well. It sounds like a plan from 2014 onwards though :D
  13. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    Well, I have to say, I've seen an ASO first. Frank Verhoestraete, topic of much discussion a few pages back was listed on the withdrawal list as an "explusion" but has been taken off the list. If there was one surety in the Dakar it was if a rider made the withdrawal list, you could take that to the bank. This is the first time I've ever seen a rider re-instated after having been on "the list".
  14. Evil Invader

    Evil Invader Been here awhile

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    So, Manuels personal "enginegate" seems to work out well, Cyril´s in a fightmode, no other enginechange.....
    Tomorrow gonna be fun! :1drink


    To bad this thing called "work" comes in way...... :bluduh
  15. zenjen

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    :thumb No problem.
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    ric678 Been here awhile

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    Maybe then it has to do with yesterdays FloodGate and skipping part of the course? or a bunch of waypoints?
    Does the ASO ever explain expulsions ?
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    vander full-time dreamer

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    Laia Sanz & GASGAS

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  18. Idle

    Idle Been here awhile

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    About transfer fuel pumps on Injected and carbed bikes failing. It seems moving fuel around is a common issue.

    I've got a 3L under seat tank on my 05 Husaberg. It is not very often I need it, so I install it for a ride and then take it off when it's not needed. I'm not racing, so I just use air pressure to move it to the main tank. The line gets plugged and coiled up under the seat untill I need the fuel. I blow in a short vent line and kink it, and repeat. the fuel flows out the feeder line into the fuel filler neck. It takes 3 minutes.


    What the hell does this have to do with Dakar?

    There has to be a better way to move fuel. Perhaps it's been done already, but here's my idea for managing fuel on a rally bike.

    Perhaps a simpler way to pump fuel out of auxiliary tanks would be a squeeze bulb built into the seat. Every time you bounce on the seat, it blows air into your rear tanks. Double up the bulbs for redundancy.

    Said air pressure would move fuel to the main tank, and could have a pressure relief valve and a on/off valve as well.

    It would gravity feed until fuel level is even with the carb, then the seat pump bulbs could be turned on.
    In theory, no mechanical fuel pump would be neccesary at all.

    Seriously though, why wouldn't it work?
  19. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    No. Actually this is the first year they've used any verbiage besides "withdrawal" and once you made that list, you were out, no question about it.
  20. drgunther

    drgunther Been here awhile

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    Perhaps one could even attach said pump to the swing arm of the bike instead of the seat. I don't know what the percentage of time sitting vs. standing is, but the swing arm is always gonna be there and it'll always move. Regardless of the rider sitting down or not. =)