Dakar 2013 - Official Event Coverage - thank you ALL TeamF5, lurkers and posters!

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  1. K_N_Fodder

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    09:49 - bike

    005 - Barreda gains more seconds after 140 km

    Just before the half-way point, Joan Barreda leads the bikers, having taken advantage of a starting position slightly down the order. He boasts a lead of 2'28" over Francisco Lopez, 3'47" over Juan Pedrero Garcia and 5'25" over Cyril Despres. At present, Kurt Caselli has lost 9'19" to the stage leader, having opened the road on the first portions of the special. He has been caught by the stage leaders and they are now riding together
  3. Drif10

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    If you saw that hrc film from yesterday when he got off the bike in the biv, then you'd wonder if he dumped it, and it took him that long to recover, get it up, and get going. Be my guess.
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    Barreda is taking even more time at CP2.

    2'42 to chaleco, 6'25 to despres, 10'42 to Kurt.
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    Credit to 8340SU for the find. :thumb
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      • Stage
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      • <table class="ft fvm"><thead><tr><th class="m">Pos.</th><th class="s">N°</th><th class="l">Name</th><th class="l">Make</th><th class="s">Time</th><th class="s">Variation</th><th class="s">Penalty</th></tr></thead><tbody class="selectable"><tr id="m4c005" class="c005 a"><td class="p">1</td><td>005</td><th class="m">BARREDA BORT (ESP)</th><td class="m">HUSQVARNA</td><td>001:36:12</td><td>
        </td><td>00:00:00</td></tr><tr id="m4c007" class="c007"><td class="p">2</td><td>007</td><th class="m">LOPEZ CONTARDO (CHL)</th><td class="m">KTM</td><td>001:38:54</td><td>00:02:42</td><td>00:00:00</td></tr><tr id="m4c012" class="c012 a"><td class="p">3</td><td>012</td><th class="m">PEDRERO GARCIA (ESP)</th><td class="m">KTM</td><td>001:40:48</td><td>00:04:36</td><td>00:00:00</td></tr><tr id="m4c001" class="c001"><td class="p">4</td><td>001</td><th class="m">DESPRES (FRA)</th><td class="m">KTM</td><td>001:42:37</td><td>00:06:25</td><td>00:00:00</td></tr><tr id="m4c020" class="c020 a"><td class="p">5</td><td>020</td><th class="m">GONÇALVES (PRT)</th><td class="m">HUSQVARNA</td><td>001:44:45</td><td>00:08:33</td><td>00:00:00</td></tr><tr id="m4c029" class="c029"><td class="p">6</td><td>029</td><th class="m">CASELLI (USA)</th><td class="m">KTM</td><td>001:46:54</td><td>00:10:42</td><td>00:00:00</td></tr></tbody></table>
  9. Drif10

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    That's Helder. Or maybe an HRC thing... :lol3
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    Barreda passed the whole pack in that sector.

    Smart? Dunno. But the video should be good on Fr4.
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    OK, I'll go with that assumption for a second. So yesterday was a 220 km special (or, shortened by 30kms, 190km total). Helder starts, and because there is no refueling inside the stage, it means he has to calculate fuel at DSS for the whole special. So he fills up for say 220kms, + 10% for nav error, skipping out on, what another extra 4-5 liters? Yes! I hear you say, for extra performance!

    Ok, bear with me. 4-5 extra liters of fuel, on -how much does the CRF weigh?- let's assume a 150-160 kilo bike, those 4-5 extra liters are about a 3-4% weight difference to the whole package...?

    I'm no Helder, but that is negligible on a rally bike I would imagine, and if not, certainly not more important than having peace of mind to finish the damn day. Helder is no dork, I'd like to think.

    Unless. And this is where it might get interesting. Unless he finds the CRF very quirky / the frame geometry weird / the rear suspension bitchy / there is an innate design flaw with how the bike carries it's weight when filled to the brim, and/or how the fuel is circulated when the tanks are topped up with gas.

    Just pure speculation, wild guessing and pure innuendo...
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    here we go


    botturi got lost, he is going west too soon, at km 155, maybe others will follow his track


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    now caselli is the last one in the group
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    :dunno It's got to be looking like a hare scramble at this point though! :clap
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    Yeah I shoulda saved that one for the end of the stage. :lol3

    Wp4 open! Woohoo! Faria not in yet! Chaleco not 2nd overall yet - we don't know! yay!
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    We can't know, but I'm sure HRC experiments with different FI maps and settings between the different bikes and different stages. Remember the hi-res pics from the Mojave tests and the van with the different settings scribbled on it?
  19. PackMule

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    No so wild guessing. I don't buy that any fuel volume issue that Helder has had, save perhaps the first, could have been due to short-filling.

    We're not talking about having an extra 15L on a 660 Rallye here. As you say, the %'s are small in this case. I know these guys are pushing at the ragged edge, and will look for any advantage available, but the risk doesn't justify -- especially given the issues they've already had with the Honda. :nah
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    Chaleco @ +2:42