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Discussion in 'Racing' started by doyle, Jan 1, 2013.
De Gavardo cousins!
Whoah, absolutely amazing call in (and an amazing recovery). Thanks PackMule.
We drove 30 miles to dinner. Eat, pick up some groceries and back. And no Luis? UGH. Hope I don't lose my dinner.
Love listening to the calls. Thanks for making them happen!
Thanks - gonna check the WP times now to figure out who rode with whom today.
here it goes:
Wow. Just wow. After all the contenders and their fighting words and intentions this year, the top 5 becomes an all KTM affair. Make of that what you will. Riders? Machine? team? Maybe - most possibly- a combination of all three.
Gutted to see Botturi slide down the sheets after missing a waypoint (I didn't quite understand why) but, once again, this race rewards the concept of The Team, instead of just the rider or the machine. And The Team to beat is KTM. Hopefully, with Husky/SpeedBrain, HRC and Yamaha committed to this race, we can only hope they keep learning and taking notes, and here's to a brilliant 2014 edition with more upsets, more varied stage winners and -if all goes well- a new Dakar winner.,,
Yeah, I hear you say that there is still a stage and a half, but after witnessing Le Patron's strategy today, can there really be any doubt left? A worthy title for team orange & Cyril once again, I am hoping this display of race craft can only inspire the other teams, get them thinking hard and make them work
Right, I'm off to get some rest, and happy to be riding orange. Ever since my first SuperCompetition 620 (yeah that's what EXC's were called back in '95), and witnessing Heinz' purple Dakar machine, I have rooted for this team, a David amongst Goliaths when it first dared enter the Dakar... 18 years on, who would have guessed. More power to them, they are a case study in how to dominate
rant over, catch you all tomorrow
Where the hell is Doyle?
Thanks, PM. Great leading questions, when it was your turn to talk.
Lyndon's attitude is certainly top-notch What an experience.
I've been there... Nega Pass
No skier - Woo Hoo
And Simon Pavey dolls - WTF?:huh
I am guessing about 15mins until France 2 Le Bivouac judging by current program and their schedule.
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Potted history of the Chinese Jincheng team:
2008 - Lined up for the aborted Lisbon-Dakar on XR250's - one badged "NEW MOTOR" and the other something else ( can't recall ), the bikes were as rough as guts, very poorly prepared.
2009 - Same 2 XR250's from Lisbon, but badged "JINCHENG" and better prepared, I don't think either finished and the Czech guy on the monkey bike rounded them up on at last one day. Just one support guy in a rented ute, several times later into the bivouac than both riders.
2010 - 2 Chinese riders on kitted Yamaha WR450's, nicely presented in red livery - badged as JINCHENG and entered as JC450's. ( I wasn't there personally in 2010 )
2011 - Same 2 WR450's as 2010, plus a western rider on a KTM530 - all in red Jincheng livery. The WR450's had all Yamaha logos removed but oddly, the KTM still had KTM logo on the clutch cover ( later in the rally anyway - maybe after an engine swap ? ).
2012 - I wasn't there, but only 2 bikes from memory, maybe one Yamaha & one KTM ?
2013 - One Chinese & one westerner on KTM450 Rallye's apparently ( I'm stuck in Oz ).
So why do they do it ? As with anything in China, you can never get a straight answer. I have met with Jincheng several times for an unrelated project and they are very proud of their Dakar team - when i asked them why they use Yamahas instead of developing something themselves, you just get a blank stare - like "Who told him we use Yamaha's...". So who knows, maybe they will come up with something of their own, maybe it will look not a lot unlike a certain Austrian Rallye bike ??
You can see the progression though, with typical Chinese logic - enter some XR250's, good reliable bikes - didn't finish.
Enter some Yamaha's, good reliable & fast bikes - finsihed at back end of field. Enter a KTM 530 with a western rider -
finsihed mid field. Enter the bike the won the Dakar the previous year.......
wow gone for work today and now mypriemium has been taken down.. dang.. next year VLC and new hardware for this kid
any news on Luis?
Last news : WP6/CP4 at 18:24 (local time).
Talking to his wife as I type. No word.
Never knew that much about JC other than super successful multi Baja1000 winner, but this Dakar has shown he's a great guy and has a great attitude!
That guy is giving me gray hair......as if I could use any more.....................:eek1