Dakar 2013 - Official Event Coverage - thank you ALL TeamF5, lurkers and posters!

Discussion in 'Racing' started by doyle, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. J Lewis

    J Lewis Numb Nuts

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    It is just a question. There may be more to it but speculation just starts rumors and there are no good ones I know of.
    Well, I do know a lot of stuff but I'm sure you guys have torn it to shreds in the past 40 pages already.
  2. Brodovitch

    Brodovitch Team ⌘R

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    Kurt
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    Jonah (yeah I know he's retired but IIRC, in his resignation letter he was crystal clear that one of the main reasons for him pulling out was the lack of top-notch factory logistics, support & machinery)

    I can't think of two other names that can achieve victory in just 3 years, no matter how talented they are at other racing disciplines.
  3. ian408

    ian408 Oh? Administrator

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    I think (in order): Caselli, Cambell, Udall. I'd add Street to the list too-in front of Caselli-but retirement is in the way.
  4. silentwolf

    silentwolf Been here awhile

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    Destry Abbott is capable, the question is whether he would want to push that hard at this point in his career. Though with his experience he could be a front runner, and it might keep him from making rookie mistakes... A good team candidate in any case.

    Nathan Kanney? GNCC mostly, but has been about and might be looking to do something different. Yeah, I'm looking at experience...

    While this might be a wildcard, what about Cody Webb? Not sure if he would be up for it, but I think he's a young gun coming up the ranks - definitely has the potential... Especially after reading his interview from KOM. Scratch the wildcard: He could do it. But you should know better than us about that Jimmy... :d

    Kurt C's pretty well spoken for I would think, but he's on my list.

    There's someone else that's not coming to mind at the moment... :scratch

    Unless you're looking for a 'My fair Lady' publicity stunt, then put me on the list... :wink:

    "you are to stay here for the next six months learning to ride beautifully, like a mule deer in a savanna. At the end of six months you will be taken to Dakar, fully sponsored. If the rally finds out you are not a capable rider, you will be taken to the Eiffel Tower, where your steering head will be cut off as a warning to other presumptuous trailriders! If you are not found out, you shall be given a present of... uh... a finisher's medal to start life within a mechanic's shop. If you refuse this offer, you will be the most ungrateful, wicked rider, and the angels will weep for you." - Prof J. Lewis Higgins.

    :deal
  5. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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    theoretically, NK retired. :( ALthough that doesnt mean he wouldnt try.

    I want to talk him into some east coast rallies if nothing else.
  6. skibum69

    skibum69 slave to gravity

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    Is it June yet:lol3
  7. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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  8. Jim Rowley

    Jim Rowley Rise above

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    How about you Jimmy? I think Ned would be a great addition.
  9. J Lewis

    J Lewis Numb Nuts

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    It is about top riders and winning, not the best washed up guy who might make a good waterboy. And I'm talking about myself there...
  10. DruncleWill

    DruncleWill CRASH TESTED

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    It seems to me that any of the top 5 racers in any of the top US off-road series has the talent. The bigger question is who has the commitment ? These guys need to put food on the table, and I don't see the sponsors stepping up to the level needed to put an American on top of the podium at the Dakar. Until rally racing can be grown and sold to the American motorcycling public, the sponsors will continue to market hoodies and flatbill caps.
    Maybe if we had a respected American motorcyclist / race promoter start up a feeder series :evil
  11. Jim Rowley

    Jim Rowley Rise above

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    You can put a solid team together with the experience you've had. Kurt as #1 and Ned as his water carrier. Follow up with Quinn and Jonah and their respective water carriers. How much more solid can you get?
  12. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    +1
  13. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    I'd have to say Caselli for sure after this year, but certainly Quinn Cody, Cody Webb, and Colton Udall and I'm sure there are a handful of others, but as we've seen with so many others, it has a lot more to do with the team, the bike, and the support rather than just the skill of the rider. It isn't so much as to which American rider has the skills, it's which American rider can put together a package up to the task.
  14. silentwolf

    silentwolf Been here awhile

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    I think that's really the issue here. The right rider is certainly important, but strictly youth/strength and a top rider elsewhere really doesn't guarantee anything in Dakar. Kurt is a good fit in general, but he's admitted that he's always hoped for Dakar in his future. He's just moving on his intended path and he's no spring chicken either. He's turning thirty and Cyril's what, 33? I think half the field (finishers) are 30-40?

    I think a well placed consistent rider could push their way into the podium like Coma and Despres if that was their focus. (year round practice, testing, etc) I haven't looked at the records in a while but I don't recall if their ISDE and enduro records were of any note before they became the kings of Dakar... Cyril started out in trials, Coma I'm not so sure.

    It really comes down to team and attitude. One might think you can't get it out of a washed up water boy, but aside of KTM how many of those 10-25th place have the real support of the front runners? Would they be more competitive if they knew they could swap an engine at a refuel?

    Someone else mentioned it here, Jonah's decision to drop wasn't from a distaste from Dakar, it was lack of funding/support. Charlie and crew have done a great job, but if there was a KTM or HRC sized budget, I'm thinking he might have had another go.

    A real 'American' effort needs to have the legs before it can run...
  15. hubilado

    hubilado Motoquiero

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    Motorfiets Long timer

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    K_N_Fodder Long timer

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    Motorfiets Long timer

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    Honda maybe
  19. Flood

    Flood F5lood.

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    See discussion in the Bivouac.
  20. Bluebull2007

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    This is not something that we like to talk openly about much for obvious reasons. :evil Please consider editing your post, removing all reference to links and whatnot.

    Try pm'ing a couple of guys a day or two before the event or maybe on the 1st day.