Dakar 2014 Cliff Notes Thread

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  1. Bluebull2007

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    Frans Verhoefen:

    Stage 2

    On Kevin Muggleton:

    Local on a Dakar bike


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    The following is a VERY GOOD summary of Stage 3: Go to the link. :deal

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    Great audio clips and interviews for Stage 3:

    Tracks and route.
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    Stage 4: Whats on the menu?

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    Images courtesy of Uller :clap

    Its a stage over 657km long for the cars (not shown); this will be their own little marathon test.

    For the bikes, I looked at Scott's amazing work, and it looks like there will be some nice long straight sections with an HP (off piste) section accross a wide plain covered with fesh-fesh and lots of rocks. hard on the wrists and very hard if you have no tyres.

    59Km liaison 352km long followed by a 151km liaison

    My guess is they will cut it short at the end. Either way the tyres must last another 562km

    Im going to catch some zzz's see you all in a few hrs :wave
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    I get up at 5.00 am to do some back combing and "Cliff Notes" (as Flood and Blue bull been doing such at tag team effort so far... :clap) only to find Duracellbull still awake at picking all the pieces of knowledge from the the f5irehose. :clap

    Awesomw marathon eff5ort so far Neil. :wave

    Now as far as the nightshif5t goes; :deal

    Dean Lewis dropped in from the University of Dakar Hard Knox with some very astute scholastical insight on the BamBam versus Aliens subject. All very accurate and informative insight that any North American rally students interested in taking the Rally 101 curriculum would do well to heed. My suggestion would be to contact Jimmy and enroll in one of his HogWild inspired desert navigation degree courses post haste! :clap

    The whole "which way did they go" debate falls into ywo simple rules.

    Rule 1. the roadbook is the prescribed route.
    Rule 2. any amendments to the roadbook are issued and signed for at the bivouac. (on rare occassions this has occured at a CP or regroup - mid stage - but principle is the same) only these informations (issued and signed for) have the same effect as the road book.

    People wearing "rally t-shirts", waving flags or with beer cans in hand are not "officials"... they are spectators... and well intentioned or not - their "pointing the way" has no weight at far as the jury is concerned. The roadbook prescribes the route.

    Now, as to the identity of the "official" and how did he (who Vasselly describes as being the reason they followed the "wrong" tracks into the valley of doom) get there? At 4000 something meters...? Chopper?

    As Bluebull said, I would only accept possibly the hand directions Etienne Kavigne or David Castera (director and clerk of course) if I came across them mid stage... and the "directions" were at odds with the book... But I'd also stop and ask... "okay, but where does that put me BACK onto the course as plotted" not just tear off in the new direction.

    I agree that altitude and tiredness have played their part in this episode and terribly dissappointed for the 20 or so amatuers that fell foul of this incident... but the early riders who f5#¤%ed up, lifted, carried and bludgeoned their way through in spite of their misstake... blood sweat and a lot of tears - it's DAKAR - and it often ends up in tears for more than 50% of the starters for one reason or another... this was just one of those.
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    bikes

    #1 - CYRIL DESPRES (FRA) [YAMAHA]
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    #4 - JORDI VILADOMS (ESP) [KTM]
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    #9 - DAVID CASTEU (FRA) [KTM]
    [​IMG]


    #18 - SAM SUNDERLAND (GBR) [HONDA]
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    #14 - JAVIER PIZZOLITO (ARG) [HONDA]
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    #30 - RIAAN VAN NIEKERK (ZAF) [KTM]
    [​IMG]


    #53 - PEDRO BIANCHI PRATA (PRT) [HUSQVARNA]
    [​IMG]



    lots of photos (100+) posted on webventure.com.br today, looking like from stage 2; reposted everything over in the Dakar 2014 Photo F5rehose thread if you're interested!
  8. Bluebull2007

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    Stage 4: Whats on the menu?

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    Images courtesy of Uller :clap

    Its a stage over 657km long for the cars (not shown); this will be their own little marathon test.

    For the bikes, I looked at Scott's amazing work, and it looks like there will be some nice long straight sections with an HP (off piste) section accross a wide plain covered with fesh-fesh and lots of rocks. hard on the wrists and very hard if you have no tyres.

    59Km liaison 352km long followed by a 151km liaison

    My guess is they will cut it short at the end. Either way the tyres must last another 562km

    Im going to catch some zzz's see you all in a few hrs :wave
  9. troy safari carpente

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    Awesomw marathon eff5ort so far Neil. :wave

    Now as far as the nightshif5t goes; :deal

    Dean Lewis dropped in from the University of Dakar Hard Knox with some very astute scholastical insight on the BamBam versus Aliens subject. All very accurate and informative insight that any North American rally students interested in taking the Rally 101 curriculum would do well to heed. My suggestion would be to contact Jimmy and enroll in one of his HogWild inspired desert navigation degree courses post haste! :clap

    The whole "which way did they go" debate falls into ywo simple rules.

    Rule 1. the roadbook is the prescribed route.
    Rule 2. any amendments to the roadbook are issued and signed for at the bivouac. (on rare occassions this has occured at a CP or regroup - mid stage - but principle is the same) only these informations (issued and signed for) have the same effect as the road book.

    People wearing "rally t-shirts", waving flags or with beer cans in hand are not "officials"... they are spectators... and well intentioned or not - their "pointing the way" has no weight at far as the jury is concerned. The roadbook prescribes the route.

    Now, as to the identity of the "official" and how did he (who Vasselly describes as being the reason they followed the "wrong" tracks into the valley of doom) get there? At 4000 something meters...? Chopper?

    As Bluebull said, I would only accept possibly the hand directions Etienne Kavigne or David Castera (director and clerk of course) if I came across them mid stage... and the "directions" were at odds with the book... But I'd also stop and ask... "okay, but where does that put me BACK onto the course as plotted" not just tear off in the new direction.

    I agree that altitude and tiredness have played their part in this episode and terribly dissappointed for the 20 or so amatuers that fell foul of this incident... but the early riders who f5#¤%ed up, lifted, carried and bludgeoned their way through in spite of their misstake... blood sweat and a lot of tears - it's DAKAR - and it often ends up in tears for more than 50% of the starters for one reason or another... this was just one of those.
  10. kaia

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    #1 - CYRIL DESPRES (FRA) [YAMAHA]
    [​IMG]


    #4 - JORDI VILADOMS (ESP) [KTM]
    [​IMG]


    #9 - DAVID CASTEU (FRA) [KTM]
    [​IMG]


    #18 - SAM SUNDERLAND (GBR) [HONDA]
    [​IMG]


    #14 - JAVIER PIZZOLITO (ARG) [HONDA]
    [​IMG]


    #30 - RIAAN VAN NIEKERK (ZAF) [KTM]
    [​IMG]


    #53 - PEDRO BIANCHI PRATA (PRT) [HUSQVARNA]
    [​IMG]



    lots of photos (100+) posted on webventure.com.br today, looking like from stage 2; reposted everything over in the Dakar 2014 Photo F5rehose thread if you're interested!
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    It's official, Kevin didn't make it to the special yesterday:


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    It's over for me. Found an old used tire which blew out completely before the special. Arrive too many hours after the stage closed. Gutted
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