Hi Larry still got me on ignore? (our private joke) Just wondering... do Toyo make an R16" / 33" tire? The Mini's are Michelin(BFG) shod and run that spec because it is the maximum that the FIA T1 (4WD category) allow.... Whereas the 2WD T1's (and other T3 buggies) are permitted up to 37". I agree the US teams Toyo tires seem to have a big advantage as far as resilliance goes in the tougher stages (geez X-Raid must a stack of busted rubber out back the size of a Nevada gaming establishment ). Cheers! Hope BJ comes back with the sorted EVR Chev/golf cart next year. I think they learned considerable amount this year. RG gets the Gordini sorted, a second car (and hires MM or DS to run the bivouac so he can concentrate on driving) then he could be a bona fide contender in 2015 (the car seems very capable in an all round sense... when it is running trouble free). After ten years at the "rodeo" (the RDZ faithfulls favourite analogy ) the time for "if's" is probably over I reckon.