Dakar Dazed II - the return! Part 1: Project LC4-50

Discussion in 'Racing' started by JMo (& piglet), Jan 26, 2013.

  1. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    (He'll have to go in the washing machine first... he is filthy!)

    Jx
  2. Browner

    Browner n00b

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    Piglet is dirty and Si and Barni must be well what can i put!!!!
  3. Pete640

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    Times UP! News?
  4. ktmmitch

    ktmmitch Been here awhile

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    While Jenny has been playing in the Pyrennes,Martin at Torque Racing has been busy building the new engine,with short-stroke crank.All went well,and we had a meeting with Cosworth this week to finalise the order for production pistons,which are due mid-sept,but we can CNC machine a prototype piston from their CAD data to enable us to get the 450 up & running as soon as possible.
  5. wrk2surf

    wrk2surf on the gas or brakes

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    will you be testing with used cases and will you guys be using a fresh block when you actually build the race bike ? Great work by making an affordable alternative to the privateer wanting to race the dakar on a lower maintenance bike !
  6. ktmmitch

    ktmmitch Been here awhile

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    We will test the 450 with the used cases motor and prototype piston whilst waiting for production crank & piston.This should give us enough feedback of where we are going,it is quite a major project for a small group of us to be attempting,but we think there is a market for an economical alternative to short-hours 450RR bikes,and we want to show our EVO2 Rallye kits on the biggest stage in the world..........DAKAR.
    Thanks to all those who are supporting our project,and I am looking forward to hearing it run for the first time(bit of a frankenstein thing going on I reckon)
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  8. Bluebull2007

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    Very curious about this one :lurk
  9. Baja Dad

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    This is cutting edge.... Very nice
  10. Farioli

    Farioli "just do it"

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    I am really interested how it went?

    Thanks!
  11. ICERIDER

    ICERIDER Adventure Rider

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    +1

    Has it run yet? What's the predictions on torque/power band/heat production/fuel consumption etc?

    Good luck.
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    Dakar entry confirmed for Jenny? All quiet....:eek1
  13. gladiator

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    Why don't we start a 'prediction' pole and state what we think might be the result of these mods?
    I'll start. I think that with a shorter stroke and a relatively large bore, the motor will only start making power in the upper rev range, and will be lacking any decent torque.
    Whatcha think?
  14. ICERIDER

    ICERIDER Adventure Rider

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    !!!!!??????""""""""???

    Jenny we all want this to work. There's a lot of big brains behind it. Taking a lot on, yes, but with a lot of experience to reduce the risk. And its amazing how oversquare engines can be these days but with computers they can work so well. But I think we're feeling the stress now with the days counting down and little news coming out. A lot of us are into engines and we'd love to know how its going that's all.

    Good luck.
  15. italrally

    italrally Been here awhile

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    Mmmmh, very quiet, a lot of people got the ASO letter !

    Also no news on her facebook page ?

    So what's up now Jenny ?
  16. tehdutchie

    tehdutchie Long timer

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    Dont know, perhaps an extended visit somewhere offroad?
  17. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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  19. Aussie66

    Aussie66 Been here awhile

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    My guess from riding several rally bikes and a few rallies.

    The engine will be bullet proof, may feel a bit tame in the larger frame (compared to a yamaha or honda). Cyril at KTM had already said that the 450RR needed some modernization (ie lose some weight). But dont forget 90% of the people rallying do NOT need a competetive bike, they need a rideable reliable bike.

    If you are in 70th spot you are NOT in any contention, finishing should be the goal, anyone who blows an engine in 70th spot took the wrong idealogy to the race.

    I reckon the thought process here is a great one, most people going to dakar would choose a 450RR, errrrrrrr , a winner if the rider has alien talent otherwise it is the wrong choice. It requires daily love and attention, lots of attention, and as a noveau entrant at dakar you simply do not have that time.

    my 2cents

    Gooo Jmo
  20. tehdutchie

    tehdutchie Long timer

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    always the voice of reason :evil