Dakar stage maps - the top secret stuff !

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  1. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    After hours of investigations, spying, and using my full bag of connections and secret tricks, I have mapped out the complete Stage 1 Special. I have it in full Google Earth form, which could be pretty handy for competitors to study for an hour or two, zoomed in to see every turn and every bush.

    I already started on Stage 2, and guess what, . . . I'll leave it at that! :evil

    Stage 1:
    The stage starts in flat farmlands in an area called Rodeo Viejo. This is a lot of VERY fast dirt roads with a couple of wash crossings. If it rains, these washes could present some interesting challenges. Without rain I suspect they will be dry.

    Later the route curves up into some rugged mountains, reaching around 3800ft (1200m). These mountain roads are very twisty and not so wide, with lots of opportunities for going off the edge.

    The motos take a bit of a shortcut detour mid-way, but then rejoin the car route. The detour is not shown on this map but it's in some rugged mountain terrain.

    The stage then goes back down to farm lands, back into the mountains, back down again, finally finishing near San Agustin.

    Enjoy!

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    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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  3. shrineclown

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    Cool....thanks Scott
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    My Spanish isn't very good, but it's clear that about half way through they ride through a section where tigers will try to kill them (Tigre Muerto). Seems like guys on bikes will be unfairly disadvantaged. But then this the the Dakar, not some pansy-arse baja ride! :deal
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    c.vestal Rally On

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  6. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    After a bit more work on Stage 1, I was able to map out the two places where the bike route departs from the car/truck route. One is a shortcut midway through. The other is at the end of the stage. It looks like ASO is trying to make the bike route a bit shorter and keep them away from the cars at the end so there isn't much car vs bike passing.

    I also mapped the first 70% of Stage 2, including the separate car and bike sections of the route. Stage 2 is pretty much ALL mountains, so they won't be hitting 100mph much if any!

    If I had a roadbook or two to work from, this would have been a bit easier!

    Here's a view of the course through the farmlands at the beginning of Stage 1. VERY fast stuff!
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    And later in Stage 1:
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    And a view of the moto only section of Stage 2. This is pretty typical of the whole stage. Damn that road looks like FUN !!!
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  7. bend27

    bend27 by hook or by crook

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    Love your work!!:lurk
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    I have glorious visions of you drifting through those corners with your passenger in full extension! :lol3
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  9. davidlomax

    davidlomax Been here awhile

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    Any chance of a google earth file or two to have a look at the stages on my machine at home?

    Ta!

    Check ths quick article out about Tamsin Jones Dakar attempt last year (she's looking after Craig Bounds 86) in this years event.

    CNN Dakar Article and Images

    Dave
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    I never did get to try riding monkey with you, maybe next time?:D
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  11. Dread Pendragon

    Dread Pendragon throttle to the donk

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    Hogwild, this is a uniquely awesome thread. We appreciate your work!
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  12. Quietus

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    amazing stuff HW. Thanks a lot for this :)
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  13. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    Ya, that section reminds me of Pikes Peak!

    Sorry, it's reserved for a couple of guys down in Argentina.

    I've got a little whoop section out at Dumont you might like!

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    If it's muddy in the early stages as some have suggested due to rains, they could have problems at the water crossings, steep hills, and surprise hairpin turns. I predict a lot of bikes and cars slipping off the roads in the turns.

    Here are a pair of images from Stage 1. The first is the car/truck only section where they cross a creek. It doesn't look like there's a bridge, so who knows how bad it could be in the rain. It's also pretty rugged in that area, so if it's wet they could have a real mud fest! Climbing that hill after the crossing could be interesting too! The second is the bike only section. This is another water crossing, with a 15 foot wide bridge. But it gets a bit steep after that, so it could be fun if it's slippery!

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  14. Bicycle Phil

    Bicycle Phil Been here awhile

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    Great stuff Scott....thanks :thumb
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    Awesome, Scott!
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    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    I'm about half done mapping Stage 3. Looks like they have split this stage so there's a paved liaison in the middle. But overall they are definately bumping up the difficulty level. There's a bit of dunes, a hefty bit of sand wash, and some AMAZING twisty mountain roads through some really beautiful desert and mountain terrain. Stage 3 is really making me wish I was racing this one!!! If I have time tomorrow I'll post some ground level photos of the route.
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    I'm in awe Scott. I know from your posts here that your mapping, route making, and Google Earth skills are top notch, but, in a general sense, where are you pulling the route information? From the stage maps the ASO make public and then matching to road/trails that show up via google? :dunno
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  19. Aussie66

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    Just imagine what the factory teams do to get an idea of the route. Amazing and great work to see this.
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  20. HogWild

    HogWild Scott Whitney

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    Ok, now that Stage 1 is off and running, here's my Google Earth file for that stage:
    http://www.hogwildracing.com/dakar2011/Dakar2011-Stage1Map.kml

    If you can't get Google Earth to work, you can go to www.google.com, click on "Maps" at the top of the screen, then paste the above FULL link (right-click > Copy Shortcut) into the search box. That will open the file in Google Maps in your internet browser. Then make sure you are viewing it in "Satellite" view or "Earth" view so you can see the terrain.

    The red line is the car/truck course. On stage 1 there are two places where the motos go a different way than the cars & trucks. Those "motos only" sections are marked in orange. Yellow is the liaisons.

    I never got a look at the roadbook, so I wasn't able to add markers at each roadbook waypoint.

    Enjoy!
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