damned neutral switch again!!!

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by One Less Harley, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    Yep, yearly leaking neutral switch on the G/S. Replaced it when I had the tranny out then it leaked less than a year later. Replaced it early last year (Max replaced it), now it's leaking again. Looks like I'll be plugging the thing.
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  2. elmontanero

    elmontanero Practicing...

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    Mine was working fine till the rebuild, now no love. And yeah... after the rebuild, with sealant from the builder, leaks.
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  3. bgoodsoil

    bgoodsoil Dare to be Stupid

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    I'm plugging mine. Which reminds me, I need to return the one Datchew loaned me.
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  4. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    Yes you do. I was wondering where that went. And bring me a slinger if you have any laying around. Not the repops mind you. Those are apparently junk.
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  5. wirewrkr

    wirewrkr the thread-killer

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    I had an idea, (yeah, yeah, why didn't it die of loneliness)
    Heard it before.
    Anyway, if someone here has the computer skills, howzabout we draft a cyber letter of complaint, get a SHITLOAD of pissed off inmates to sign it and I could get it to the right person at BMW.
    If for no other reason than to get them to either change their vendor or put pressure on their vendor to fix the fucking switches.
    Maybe some language about how the neutral switch is part of the Federally mandate SAFETY Starter cut-out blah blah...
    Either way, we could hopefully collect enough signatures to get them (or her)to take notice.
    Power in numbers.
    I am personally sick of buying switches and will be plugging the very young switch on my bike that pukes oil.
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  6. SUVslayer

    SUVslayer Long timer

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    I'll sign. I thought I was doing something wrong like over torquing them or something. It's the last oil leak (I think) and I can't seem to fix it.
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  7. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    BMW doesn't care Robert. Supplying parts for old obsolete bikes is probably a PITA to them.

    My guess is there's some other vendor making repops for them anyway just like Huggett makes the slingers for Vech, Bob's, and MAX.

    I've heard over and over about "I like BMW because I can get parts for the old bikes"

    I no longer buy that line.
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  8. Solo Lobo

    Solo Lobo airhead or nothing

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    Anything you can mark up 100% (or more), only stock what normally sells, and make customers wait for it doesn't normally sell much isn't a PITA, but a gift to a retailer. Most dealers know this and don't mind a bit.
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  9. The Raven

    The Raven Banned

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    Ok....the neutral switch in the GS looks just like the 4wd switch in my Jeep, and the reverse switch in my 328i with NEITHER leaking......There has to be a tips and trick solution...
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  10. ChromeSux

    ChromeSux Un-plated and Unscrewed

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    Funny this topic has came up again, a few weeks ago mine started leaking for the third time, i have replaced the switch twice in less than 2 years, NO MORE.
    I went to Auto zone and bought a 12mm x 1.5pitch bolt, cut it just about 2 threads shorter than the exposed threads that were on the switch, used the crush washer that was on the switch, little high temp RTV and all is well.

    I did let the gearbox fluid drain overnight and cleaned the switch hole threads with a Q tip and some carb cleaner, damn sure aint leaking now.

    On the R100GS you have to pull the clutch in to start it any way so no big loss not having the switch, just no light for N.

    On a side note just today as i was savoring the moment of defeating that oil leak and i discovered a new one starting, Pushrod tube seals, i looked all over the bike to see if it had made by AMF Harley Davidson but it doesnt, it just says BMW.
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  11. wirewrkr

    wirewrkr the thread-killer

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    Are you implying that the dealers are the ones making the huge mark-up?
    NOT!
    the average profit margin for BMW parts is around 31%
    It used to be around 40% when I started working there 16 years ago, but has diminished greatly.
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  12. datchew

    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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    I got to the same mind as you Chromesux. I replaced it 1 last time. When this one leaks, I'm plugging it with my aluminum bolt (it's an aluminum case after all) and a crush washer or nitrile washer.

    I don't really find much use for it anyway as I have gotten in the habit of knowing by speed and pitch of the motor RPM what gear I'm in.

    My neutral safety connection was killed long ago, so the switch serves only for the indicator light and seeing that little green light simply isn't worth the $.
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  13. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    I was looking though my extra parts and i don't believe it there are three screwed up switches in the box!!! Dang I didn't know I'd had that many, depressing!!!


    CS is right the bolt is a 12x1.5
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  14. Wirespokes

    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    I wonder if there's a way to re-engineer these things so they're rebuildable with a seal, rather than being crimped together? For the $30 or $40 they want for the dumb things, it would be worth it.

    Mine started leaking a while back and leaves a puddle in the garage where it's parked. I've just been putting up with the mess cause I don't want to hassle with it. Don't know how old it is since the bike is new to me.
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  15. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    Maybe I should give the crimp a couple more whacks with a hammer. I've noticed on a couple of the leaking switches that the plastic body rotates in the Al housing. Might be worth a shot, might tighten up the o-ring seal in the body. I'll take one of the bad ones apart to see how it's put together.
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  16. fishkens

    fishkens Long timer

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    I heart science. There's got to be a solution. Maybe.

    There's a switch encapsulated in some plasticy stuff that is supposed to seal against the housing. Grind out the existing plastic and replace it with a wonder substance that withstands heat and vibration.

    I have a dream that you'll solve this conundrum. :D
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  17. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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    DOnt even grind it. Epoxy the entire outside, or dip it in tool dip or something (minus the leads, of course) It doesnt leak through the threads but through the thing itself right?
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  18. fishkens

    fishkens Long timer

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    Right. So the question is how to seal the inside of the housing that screws into the tranny and the leads, etc. coming out of the center of that housing. There's got to be a solution to this problem.
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  19. Wirespokes

    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    It is just a simple on/off switch after all. Perhaps someone could machine a plug with a seal for a little shaft. Then mount a standard mini switch to that. Make it so it's possible to remove without pulling the trans or that cross tube.

    After all that, it's gotta be super simple or it'd cost more than the original. :lol3
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  20. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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