Darien vs Traverse

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  1. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Been here awhile

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    Alright so I now have the funds ready. I need only to decide shich jacket to purchase. I am considering the traverse and adding pads as an option....


    The local dealer has a Tourmaster Epic for $160 bucks that looks really nice. I almost bought it...then the traverse...then thought maybe I want a darien...

    I found a new with tags traverse for $250. May get it and pull the pads out of my leathers.

    Here are a few things I like and dislike about each...

    The Darien has no real flaws. It has proven itself protective time and time again like all Stich gear. May get hotter than others, and is sort of bulky and unfashionable...but seriously who cares. I do not like that I have not seen it in person.

    The Traverse fits great, feels good, and is high quality. It is not street oriented and I have my doubts about using it to slide across pavement....if this doubt was gone, Id own it. I may save for a latitude, but jesus thats alot of money to me.
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  2. skierd

    skierd Wannabe Far-Rider

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    I've had both a Darien and a traverse. The traverse is slimmer cut and fits great vs the frumpy bulky cut off the Darien, meaning it cuts through the wind better and had less of the parachute effect. The available d3o armor is awesome and more comfortable than the Darien's pass in my opinion. I'd have no problem trusting it in a street crash. Pair it with aerostich ad1 pants for the best do it all gear money can buy. I've ridden in it in you 're temp range and always was comfortable, always stayed dry even in a hurricane.
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  3. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Been here awhile

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    Thanks man.

    Any other input on traverse in a pavement slide?
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  4. mike cummins

    mike cummins OUTBACK RIDER

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    i recently bought the darian however have not used it yet. My last big trip was across the outback to darwin and island hopped from timor around the islands to bali.
    Since then i have done rides from sydney to darwin through all sorts of weather and my opinion is this.

    The klim transvers is not waterproof, it fits well and will block 90% of water but after a while water gets in. mine was through the front.
    The klim is a off road jacket , the darian is an all road jacket. I have not ridden in the darien but can tell its not suitable or meant to be an off road jacket ( its too big). The best jacket / pants i ever owned was the first savannah bmw gear i bought. it was also the best in summer.

    I bought the darien for its all round use and not for off roaring. i will use the darien on long out back trips . I am looking currently at a forcefield armoured shirt , and wear that with the traverse pants and carry the jacket to throw over the shirt for rain etc. I still think the bmw gear is the best all round solution and i think that gortex gear is to bloody hot.
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  5. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Been here awhile

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    Thanks for your input, however I think my tolerances may be quite a bit more than yours. If I get a little wet, fine, and my current setup is a bulky pair of motoport pants and a leather jacket that is a few sizes too big. :rofl
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  6. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    If your Klim Traverse leaks, you should be contacting Klim about a repair or replacement. It has a guaranteed to keep you dry. They list it as the first thing on their web page. Granted the Traverse is only 1 layer gortex while the Latitude is 2 and the Bad Land Pro is 3, but its still should be keeping you dry. - http://www.klim.com/shop/4050-600
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  7. Travman

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    As bluelighting stated, have your Traverse checked. I've been in several rain rides including a 5 hour ride that was a mix of light drizzle to heavy downpour. Not a drop came through. I've come to trust this jacket to the point where I do not carry rainwear on trips.
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  8. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Been here awhile

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    Alright well my suit sold, and Ill be riding in jeans until I make a decision so I need to do it ASAP.

    After more and more research, I am now on the Latitude 840.

    My fun riding is wherever I end up. I prefer to end up off road.
    Once my weather gets better, Ill be off road hopefully 1 day a week for the day.
    I commute daily. 7 days a week. Year round except during snow on the roads.

    The darien wont do too hot on the trails.
    The traverse isnt ideal for road.
    The overland is only slightly better for road use
    Even though id like to ride more ADV and offroad...my amount or commuting means I am on the road. Alot.

    The latitude 840 is heavy construction to keep me intact should I bust my bum on the freeway on a work day, but also usable ofrroad.

    Any input is welcomed and muchos appreciated.

    Thanks!
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  9. skierd

    skierd Wannabe Far-Rider

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    Darien/AD1 pants, Traverse Jacket. Seriously. They're great, you can't go wrong. When it gets hot, the pants breath well enough (worse was hot and high humidity but it was still livable) and the jacket vents extremely well. When its cold, there's plenty of room for layering. The jacket is reinforced in its impact points for the pavement slide, and is durable as hell off-road. The pants are beyond well proven. I commuted in this setup for close to 2 years and it was by far the best and most versatile setup I've ever used.
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  10. hooligan

    hooligan Been here awhile

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    I have been commuting and touring in a darien lite, jacket and pants for the last 9 years. NEVER got wet. Lived in central Florida when I purchased them, thought they would be the best bet for that enviroment, and still think that.
    About 6 years ago however I moved to the North Georgia Mountains, continued to use the combo daily. In the worst of summer heat (July/August) I would wear a vented Jacket w/jeans but always carried the darien in case of rain. After 9 years it is getting a bit tired, plus Ive lost a considerable amount of weight. So, I was all set to relace my gear with a new regular Darien to compensate for the winters. I figured the thicker outer shell would be warmer, still use vented gear in the peak of summer. I ended up hooking up with Mike @ Tellico Outfitters and he put me in a Klim Lattitude jacket. It looks good, fits well, same price as a Darien. The Klim pants however do not zip at the legs and that for me is a commuting deal breaker. So I am trying to decide between the darien pants ot the AD1 pants........leaning towards the AD1's. I think this combo will keep me dry, a bit warmer in the winter and last at least another 9.
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  11. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Been here awhile

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    So I examined the clothing again, more thoroughly this time.

    Ill be getting Aerostich pants. Likely the AD1.

    As for jackets, the Latitude is the more road based jacket....but I dont understand why it does not have the D30 armor? Spending 600 on a jacket then having to upgrade armor bothers me...
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  12. RP3

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    You never said what size you were. When I bought a used two piece Roadcrafter and it was too small I advertised here for a trade and ended up with a one piece Roadcrafter that fit me and just so happened to match my bike perfectly.
    I have the one piece Roadcrafter for commuting, winter/rain and under 50 degrees also a two piece Motoport kevlar mesh suit that I like better and is my summer suit with raingear in the luggage (I don't really like the liners and have only used them a couple of times).
    In my opinion, the Motoport Kevlar mesh is the most indestructible and versatle suit you can get if fashion is not your main concern and I would either trade yours or sell yours outright and buy more that fits you. I also have an extra Motoport jacket that I bought for others to wear if we go for a ride. It is approximately a size 44/46 (unless you have been eating too much like me and have a belly) and I would consider passing it along as it does not see enough use in contrast with its value.
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  13. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Been here awhile

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    I did really consider buying a new motoport set, however getting things in my size is not easy. On top of that...isnt it a little excessive for ANY offroad use? I could be easily wrong.

    I am nearly 6 ft and can fit size 38 or 40, sometimes 42 jackets. Because of the chest size, the overall length and sleeve length is often too short.

    Same issue with pants. I can fit 29 inch waist pants, sometimes even wear 28, and need a 32 inch inseam.
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  14. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    Just curious, why do you thunk you need to upgrade to the D3O armor? The CE armor that comes with the Latitude Jacket is actually pretty nice. The D3O armor is thinner and more flexible, which for some people makes the jacket easier to wear, but I don't think the CE armor is uncomfortable at all. The D3O armor doesn't necessarily provide better protection and there's an article out there that actually would argue otherwise that the CE does a better job of protecting you. The D3O coverage are of the armor also seems less too? The D3O is just more comfy to wear.

    Here's the article I was referencing - http://www.gizmag.com/d3o-motorcycle-armour-trauma-test/14227/

    This is the interesting part on how the elbow protected by D3O got quite sore while the other side wasn't affected at all
    Here's the video from that article. Jump to about 3:10 for the interesting Frying Pan Test. Now this is a couple years old and I think D3O armor has gotten thicker since then, so this may not be as big of a deal, but in this case the frying pan definitely hurt more on the D3O side vs the other side.

    <iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ejN62qMPorc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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  15. NesquikNinja

    NesquikNinja Been here awhile

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    The D30 that they showed me at the BMW dealer was thicker and more coverage it seemeed....elbows anyway.
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  16. keiji

    keiji Long timer

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    D3o is CE rated. CE rating is a minimum standard, so you can have varying performance for rated armor.

    The bmw NP armor is orange, but it uses a different technology from d3o.
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