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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by 96R1100GS, Apr 25, 2014.
Avoid early morning and dusk riding.
Keep a sharp fixed blade knife and a few game bags in your panniers... Debone them and get them into the freezer as soon as possible!
Kill and eat more of them.
Only way to avoid hitting a dear is to go slow. Deer whistles don't work. I know because I hit one with a car that had deer whistles installed. Last summer I hit a moose (largest of the deer family) that came running full speed out of the trees and across the Alaska Highway. I was riding the speed limit and didn't even have time to put down a skid mark. Ouch.
A lot of people say that, but in my experience, early morning and dusk have been the times I've least encountered them.
The two I've hit in the car were out at 11ish p.m.
Maybe our deer are night-owls though.
Regarding deer whistles, according to the reading I've done, deer hear similar frequencies to humans, if you can't hear the whistle the deer won't either.
Keep on getting em with the truck. I've had 3 very close calls with deer on bikes, tried to nab 2 with my car but they got away.
Once on my CB350F, i had one jump over a guard rail, landing directly in my headlight beam. I distinctly remember the sound of hooves scraping for grip on the asphalt. I never even saw its head, just suddenly the ass end of a deer is right in front of me. :eek1 That was by far my closest call. Several others I had time to panic brake, that one i missed by inches at the most. A tenth of a second later the deer would have jumped into my lap.
I had one during daylight take off running across a field, about 45 degrees from my direction of travel, running toward the road. It stopped in the tree line on the side of the road. As i approached it, I slowed to a walking pace, knowing it was there. Right as i'm on top of it the stupid fucker runs across the road.
I truly hate deer. The dumbest animals I've ever seen.
I had an entire herd of them (probably 10) run across the highway in front of me the other day at 3:00 in the afternoon.....
Most deer's start foraging at dusk. I didn't want to mention after dark, when they are really active because the poster didn't say whether he worked nights. I work nights also.
Never hunted them though (have you?) and I've a heard of 100 cross a 2 lane highway at 6pm. One week ago. Your point?
exactly, it begins with DOTs planting deer's favorite forage in interstate medians and along roadsides
contrary to popular belief, deer are not animals of the forest, they prefer edge habitat foraging in fields, cover in dense brush,
My point was that "you have to watch for them more at dawn and dusk" is incorrect, they move at all times of the day in unpredictable patterns unless you have intimate knowledge of the area to figure the pattern out.
If there are woods or open fields next to the road, watch for the forest rats with the same vigilance regardless of the time of day.
I used to work nights, with a eight mile trip through forest land. A coworker cruised home, and saw critters all the time. I was fast, and it made a lot of noise. They could hear me coming, and rarely did I see a road rat. I think when someone's just putting along, they dont clear out the same way.
Not saying you should grit your teeth and go. Just be aware that your not spooking them, and more of the dummy's will be standing around being dumb when you get there. It's what they do.
When you do see one, slowing down might help, but it can also encourage them to try and get in front of you. Got one with a SUV doing that.
Luckly, they dont allways run. I have noticed when they do freak, they usually run the same direction they were pointed at when they lost it. If that's in front of you and your bike, well too bad.
Get a BMW GS Adventure. I swear, every time I see them on the side of the road, they look up at my bike and run away. My guess is that it is because the bike is so ugly that they want to be as far away as possible. I'm sure it isn't because every time I see one, I slow down and look at them... couldn't be that, right? LOL
Golden Rule - if one crosses your path there is at least two to three behind it!
Slow Down or hit them....
1984 had a nice big buck jump over my front tire at 85mph (me not him), so close.
Since then, have as much light as my alternator will handle, have had deer whistles on every bike I have owned..... and have never come close to a deer since then... Luck ? Maybe .... but I have never shy'd away from darkness. And... I usually speed up an night.
Maybe just blind dumb luck
Came close to hitting a bear at Glacier National Park a couple of years go, coming around a corner and he was camped in my lane. It was around noon, he looked hungry
Lots of replies here, but in the end nothing really solves the problem.
I've just come to the conclusion that deer suck. They are like motorcycle snipers. They come out of nowhere and fuck up your whole day.
This past Sunday (27 April) while riding up into the mountains (two lanes for up hill with one lane down hill). As I was approaching a 180 switch back, an on-coming car, rounding the switch back, stopped for no apparent reason. I slowed a little more and as I rounded the curve, there was a black bear in the right half of the right lane (my lane). I switched to the left lane and passed within about 10 feet of the bear.
Last year a mule deer (much bigger than the little guys in the east) jump on me knocking me unconscious. It was in the outskirts of town in the middle of the afternoon doing about 50 MPH. I saw the first two deer who decided not to cross. The one that hit me jumped from behind them and landed right in front of me. I do not know how he hit me. All I know is that I ended up lying on the road unconscious and I woke up with another rider looking at me and asking me not to move. EMT's showed up, strapped me to a board, and gave me a ride in an ambulance to the hospital. The gear did its job I only got a scratch in one arm and walked away the same day from the hospital.
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Witnesses said the deer took a ride for about 50' on my handlebars before I went down. I do not know, I was unconscious by then. The deer must have hit me in the face since my helmet breathing port had a big clump of hair sticking out and my jacket was covered in deer hair. They said the deer just jumped and ran away. <o></o>
Final tally was a $3K medical bill, $600 in gear trashed, a $1K tow fee (I was over 200 from the nearest service facility), and a brand new Tiger Explorer totaled. <o></o>
The insurance claim was well over $21K.<o></o>
Although I like venison, hunting deer was never appealing to me, until then. Now I just want to see as many of them shot and eaten. <o></o>
Lesson learned. See or think deer, slow down. See deer by the side of the road STOP! and let them be.
This clip is very appropriate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln1ucGoPvWk
I've been hunting them for 38 years. I'm certain it has made a difference. I've spent so much time pursuing them, patterning them and eating them too. An instinct kicks in. They can be anywhere, that's very accurate. The lay of the land, creek beds that go under the road, switch backs, ridges, long stretches where there is forest one side of the road, yummy clover or crop laden fields on the other, saddles... these are all hot spots of deer activity. The more time you've spent "looking" for them, the easier it becomes to see them. That golden time period, an hour each side of sunrise and sunset, these are peak activity times. Your speed, lighting, how alert and anticipatory you are... These are all critical factors. Always be aware, they are there so you must anticipate them. Of course, grenades, sawed off shotguns and flame throwers can help too.
So many here....there must have been 50+ in the field just a few days ago. Perfect place to fantasize, some fast electric motorcycle and a mounted machine gun.
And then the elks...herd is getting pretty big, must have been 25-30 just down the road a few weeks ago. And for my first time ever last week I saw the "Rocky mountain Caribous", must have been 12 on the road licking salt. Unconcerned by me for sure and I got pretty close, stopped took pics and then took quite a few honks to get them to clear the road.
Mountain goats....12-15 in a twisty. I was behaving so no need to hit the brakes and they sure are fast at clearing the road. Fun to watch climbing them steep banks.
Bears on the road....not rare here. Only had to take evasive actions twice but that was the other drivers fault. First one I could see the bear running across the field toward the road. Stoopid incoming driver with the fifth wheel RV should have noticed, he waited too long to brake and then had to slam them, I tought for sure that he would be pushing that bear in my lane BUT I had already slowed down.
And the stoopid Yhippy with the old Toyota SW/bicycles on the back blocking the brake lights. Idiot didn't even see the bear climbing down the cliff until that bear was 3 feet from his bumper. I tought for sure we'd be pulling a dead bear away from that sharp corner or from under the Toyota, but missed by inches. And again I had already braked and backed off well before he saw that bear.