Dealing with deer

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by 96R1100GS, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. kbroderick

    kbroderick Long timer

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    I was riding a class-four road in Vermont last Friday weekend, where said road goes from "maintained for the convenience of and at the expense of the developer trying to build a subdivision" to "not really maintained". Deer is hanging out a little to the right of the roadway, looks up at a coming, bolts left. I don't worry about it, continue slowing to line up my approach as we go into the trees and head up the rougher road, and the damned thing bolts back across in front of me, left-to-right.

    I was not expecting that.

    Then on Saturday, in northern New Hampshire, I saw a few. The second one materialized as a flash of brown movement while I was rolling along a logging road at medium pace; I got on the binders and stopped as it ran onto the roadway, followed shortly by a very cute, still-spotted fawn. The last one was standing in the logging road (somewhere between a one-lane roadway and doubletrack at that point), munching on the tall grass. I rolled up and stopped.

    It kept an eye on me and returned to eating.

    I pulled my camera out of my chest pocket and took a couple of photos.

    It kept an eye on me and kept eating.

    I decided to switch to video mode on the camera.

    It took a couple of steps down the road and returned to eating.

    About a minute (maybe 90 seconds) after stopping, I finally decided to keep rolling. I felt bad, as the deer decided to head up the roadway for maybe 1/8 of a mile before turning off.

    So, yeah, your guess about their behavior is probably as good as mine.
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  2. Andyvh1959

    Andyvh1959 Cheesehead Klompen

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    Like a hunter told me that deer tend to try and run ahead of what they perceive is a predator, he also said deer tend to first react/run whichever way they are pointed, THEN turn back around to where they were previously because it was safe where they were.

    May explain the deer that bolts to the left out of your way then at the last second turns back right into your path. Certainly are not the brightest critters in the woods.

    Just last Saturday my gal and I went for a day long ride. On the way home after dinner, we counted over 15 deer in the fields along the roads. She is getting pretty good at seeing them.
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  3. Toolpen

    Toolpen Been here awhile

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    Support your local deer hunters...
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  4. scootrboi

    scootrboi Long timer

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    Deer tactics have gotten more serious since the moose came back.
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  5. catweasel67

    catweasel67 RD04

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  6. IdahoRenegade

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    All good advice. I live in a very rural area and see whitetail nearly every day, and occasionally moose, elk and occasionally bears. While they can be anywhere, there are certainly places that they are most common, especially when cover (brush/timber) comes all the way to the road. Basic rules:

    1) Much like cagers, assume they are trying to kill you. They set up ambushes, hiding in ditches, in brush along the road or simply "freezing", until you are within their kill zone. Counter by recognizing likely ambush points and scan intensively.

    2) Deer are cowards-they won't come at you one at a time but prefer to have you outnumbered. While one has your attention, another will try to flank you and put you under direct fire. Be aware-if you see one, there are usually at least 2 more around.

    3) Be proactive. Get a hunting licensce. It works-they are much harder to find during hunting season. Heck, I think if I could figure out how to mount the Winchester to the bike I'd never see a deer on a ride. Would beat "deer whistles". Might smarten up the occasional cager as well.


    I had them attempt an ambush on me last night on my own driveway. I'm heading up it...see the two preparing to attack from the field next to the driveway. Remembering item two, I slow down...just as number 3 shoots across in front of me, less than a bike length away. Ha, missed me.
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  7. farmerstu

    farmerstu Been here awhile

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    i would prefer to kill them all.
    the only realistic thing i can think of is to lobby your local government to mow the right of ways. that will at least give a person a chance to see them before they dart onto the road.
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  8. scooterspirit

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    Letting deer populations spiral out of control is animal cruelty. By their protection tactics, the metermaids of the forest, F&W, have made the deer a menace on the environment. Of course they're just doing the king's bidding.

    I drive right at their ass and give them a big growl. Nothing much works when their in rut. The signs are starting to show around here. Slow down and be ready.
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  9. tessalino

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    If you truly want to avoid seeing deer, buy a license, invest in thousands of dollars of hunting gear, scout your hunting territory to be sure deer are present, get up hours before dawn and drive to your spot, and be on your stand at least an hour before dawn.

    You won't see a thing.

    If, however, you want to be assured of a kill, drive the roads in deer country. They can dodge a bullet traveling 2300 fps, but can't dodge a well lighted vehicle traveling 30 mph.
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  10. Navy Chief

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    Maybe we need to move the hunting areas to the roads, this would ensure that the forest rats stay away from them.... :evil
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  11. Merlin III

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    I read a long ago that a deer's perception field and (or) peripheral vision field is very narrow. When they get spooked and charge across the road they are not perceiving vehicles coming at a fast rate of speed. Once they make up their minds to bolt across the road they are incapable of changing their minds. This explains why they sometimes end up colliding directly into the side or even the rear-side of a vehicle. This is especially true if the vehicle is traveling at a fast rate of speed.

    Deer and moose are extremely hard to see even in the daytime because their coloring blends right into the background. The best thing a rider can do is to ride slower.

    I try to avoid riding at night, and, at dusk and dawn, which is the time that they are most often feeding on the roadside. I have recently tried to ride more slowly, but find myself too often not doing so.
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  12. buls4evr

    buls4evr No Marks....

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    The best thing to do is to make them extinct. But that Govt conspiracy called "hunting laws" keeps that from happening in Michigan. It would not hurt this country 1 bit if we had no more Yellow Jackets, hornets , mosquitoes, woodchucks or deer IMO. Before 1913 in MI.....If you were hungry you just went out and killed a deer. Now, people go hungry and the deer are fat from eating your Begonias and soybeans and are everywhere.
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  13. Sparrowhawk

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    I would add any water body to ambush zones. Support the reintroduction of wolves!
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