Death Valley DAZE 2013

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by RAZR, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    Yeah, Karen is of the same mindset now after a couple runs in "improved" campgrounds. She has hot water and all the comforts of home and convenience for the baby, and no need for hookups, so it is really an ideal setup for us. The puppy won't be fully safe until the first of March, so we actually will be better off being more primitive. Hoping for a full family trip in mid February if you wanna rock.

    I've put a 3 gal tank on the WR and have a 3 gallon bladder as well, so I should be good on range. The only problem is that I think my bladders a very tiny leak, but we'll see. I guess I've crashed too many times on the little bike... :lol3

    Makes sense on the 'berg with all the nutty places you go. I'm thinking the next weapon when I get comfy with fund availability will be a 500EXC, but not sure and may get an older used orange bike, but we'll see. In the mean time, I'll live with the mountain bike.
  2. toomanykaws

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    Any Vegas riders amongst the group? I am rolling over early Saturday for the day. A long day. :wink: Hope it warms up a tad as to what it is here today. :D
  3. john_h

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    Oh man...

    This looks like a gig I gotta consider - I did DV 2 years ago solo but didn't have the experience to get in too deep. And Goler and Mengel are West Coast rights of passage that really *should* be done at least once, correct?!

    My understanding is that on a Funduro you're not likely to make it up solo unless you're a pretty damn good (i.e., stay on that throttle!), that you will drop it (not a problem), and will likely need help... Spent the last 2 years getting the bike mechanically toughened up and the ham-fisted wrencher educated. Maybe it's time to get that Hero Pro and put me and the bike to the test!


    I'm gonna see what i can swing here...
  4. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    If I can do it on the pig unassisted, you'll be fine.

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    I'm doing the same run on the little bike on Saturday if you wanna rock. I'm out of shape and out of practice, but can certainly help get the machine up if things go sideways for you. Plus I've got a SPOT for if we run out of beer. :freaky
  5. john_h

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    well, i did install crash bars and a bash plate for a reason... this trip i guess i'll have to remember to bring a rubber mallet and a stick to straighten out my risers after said drops :)
  6. itsatdm

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    Thats easy to say when you have 36" legs:muutt
  7. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    OK, next route question. In reading the Death Valley Road conditions report (thanks, Finn) I got excited for the Eureka Dunes.

    So I'm thinking of doing the Lippincott to Teakettle Junction route, and then off to the Dunes, for my fuel stop to Big Pine. The only problem is from Big Pine back to Furnace Creek is another 150 miles on pavement.

    Any better ideas other than to back track back?

    Actually as I look, I think to back track would not only be more fun, but probably faster. I was going to do Titus to finish the day out, but I'll probably just cut south from there on North Hwy or whatever and head to camp.

    I've not been to the dunes yet, so I think that would be more fun.
  8. Lost Rider

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    Not trying to say much really.... but I've dragged Nancy, a 125 pound girl who's first sat down on a bike 2 years ago through most of the rides in DV, most of them with her on a 450 pound thumper GS without knobbies. It's all in one's attitude, and for the lesser part one's commitment. She doesn't let off the throttle no matter what, sometimes scaring the shit out of me. "but darling you SAID to stay on the throttle", I say, "not when there's a 200 foot cliff"! :evil

    For the most part I encourage people to ride and explore solo. If you can't depend on yourself then who can you depend on... As long as you can pick up your bike or carry a EZ-pull, and carry a satellite device like a SPOT or DeLorme Inreach with a good plan made before your ride for check-ins, there's no reason not to explore DV on your own, the reality is you're not that far from help out there. Even if you can't hit your HELP button on a SPOT, your pre determined plan will unfold and one of the many local authorities WILL be to help you in short order once your family alerts them.
    Nothing more satisfying than getting to and back from somewhere on your own IMO. :deal

    With that said, I should be at this event and will be happy to ride with anyone who's not so sure of themselves, I'm not going to hold someones hand, I'm not an off road instructor, go see Jimmy Lewis for that, but if I can help encourage a fellow rider to do something on their own, without my help, then I did my part in promoting our ADV ways. If Nancy can do it with some encouragement, then so should other people with the right attitude.

    You can do it!

    Here's a little video from our ride last week to get the juices flowing, complete with some naked time. :evil





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  9. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    Well, everyone has their cross to bear... :evil
  10. Off Limits

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    Doesn't saline valley road go all the way to big pine? That might cut out some pavement miles.
  11. Lost Rider

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    Of course my recommendation would be to fuck off camping in a parking lot your last night and go park that badass ADV mobile you gots out on Saline Valley Rd at Boxcar cabin and do the loop to hot srings, eureka dunes via Steel pass, around to racetrack, lunch at Scotty's, down lippencott and then back, bypassing 200 miles of pavement and getting some quiet time.
    I'd be down to join you for a mini adventure like that... Would even show you some great alternate routes on some super fun knarley two track instead of all of Saline rd.... :deal

    Or basecamp at the dunes and do the loop just the same...

    when you got to leave to head home?...
  12. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    I just did a track back and should be fine. Will be a LONG ay of riding.

    By my route calculations, it will be 220 from Furnace creek to Big Pine via Saline, Lippincott, and over to the Dunes. And then there will be 126 for the track back.

    By GPS it says all this will take 6.5 hours. I'm figuring a minimum of 8 hours total for all this which means I'll need to get on the road by 8 at the very latest.

    This is the Friday ride. :lol3
  13. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    Hmm... I might be convinced...

    I gotta leave on Sunday first thing as I've got a call with my boss very first thing Monday morning.
  14. longtallsally

    longtallsally Yeah I'm a chick

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    Wife and new baby in addition to job responsibilities sport, so there's only so much time I can spend away. The only reason Karen isn't coming is b/c of the new puppy. The next trip will be the whole family.

    Truth be told, it's kinda silly to bring the full monty for just me for a couple days, but this is a good run for me to do a longer drive and test with the setup without worrying the boss on the baby.

    I'm leaving on Weds around close of business and am going to boondock at Panoche Hills that night and then on in first thing Thursday morning. That seemed like the best time to do what you were describing, but in actuality I'd lose a half day of riding unless I left before sunrise on Thursday and get to the cabin in the morning and took off immediately on the bike and then repeated the same thing Friday morning. Too much driving.

    On our next trip down in Feb, I'd really like to do something like this though. We'll chat when I see you down there.
  15. almissoula

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    I'm trying to plan a route to see the racetrack and saline warm springs (2 separate days of riding). And checking this link: http://www.nps.gov/deva/upload/Morning-Report.pdf I'm a little puzzled.

    When I see that Saline road is 'posted closed' that means the closure is only a suggestion, right? My bike is too heavy to pull under a gate ;)
  16. spafxer

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    Inyo County translation ......

    Road = You Are
    Closed = on your own !

    Don't call us for help.... (unless it's your life, not just stuck out there, not your bike or property!)

    South Pass is pretty rough right now... How big of bike ?

    Hunter Mountain is icy, so you'll probably have to go up Lippencott if you want to get to the Racetrack too...

    If you're based out of Panamint and a good rider you can do it no problem on the big bikes..

    Good Luck.



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  17. Lost Rider

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    Check out the DV roads thread for the latest info:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=833425&page=8




    Saline Valley RD being "closed" is indeed a suggestion, though I passed a tow truck hauling a Camry there last week... the driver said it was a $2500 tow... be expensive to break down out there.
    The SV road closed sign is actually not in the Park, if there's any road closures inside the park, like Titus canyon for example, you shouldn't ride on them as it's a very expensive ticket if caught.


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  18. Windrat

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    the race track is eazy to get to on the pig bike... going out the south pass could be hard if there is alot of ice and the
    hot springs are a long ride from furnace creek... down lipincott on a pig is do'abull if you have lot's of skill's up is harder
    I have done the big loop out to the hot springs from fc it's a very long day and there's little time to stop
    I would not want to take a pig bike over steel pass
    there are some great rides out of fc like titus westside road etc...
  19. 1224R

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    Finn awesome footage... Look forward to seeing ya!!!




    QUOTE=Lost Rider;20487054]Not trying to say much really.... but I've dragged Nancy, a 125 pound girl who's first sat down on a bike 2 years ago through most of the rides in DV, most of them with her on a 450 pound thumper GS without knobbies. It's all in one's attitude, and for the lesser part one's commitment. She doesn't let off the throttle no matter what, sometimes scaring the shit out of me. "but darling you SAID to stay on the throttle", I say, "not when there's a 200 foot cliff"! :evil

    For the most part I encourage people to ride and explore solo. If you can't depend on yourself then who can you depend on... As long as you can pick up your bike or carry a EZ-pull, and carry a satellite device like a SPOT or DeLorme Inreach with a good plan made before your ride for check-ins, there's no reason not to explore DV on your own, the reality is you're not that far from help out there. Even if you can't hit your HELP button on a SPOT, your pre determined plan will unfold and one of the many local authorities WILL be to help you in short order once your family alerts them.
    Nothing more satisfying than getting to and back from somewhere on your own IMO. :deal

    With that said, I should be at this event and will be happy to ride with anyone who's not so sure of themselves, I'm not going to hold someones hand, I'm not an off road instructor, go see Jimmy Lewis for that, but if I can help encourage a fellow rider to do something on their own, without my help, then I did my part in promoting our ADV ways. If Nancy can do it with some encouragement, then so should other people with the right attitude.

    You can do it!

    Here's a little video from our ride last week to get the juices flowing, complete with some naked time. :evil





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  20. Lost Rider

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    Thanks, looking forward to seeing you too!

    You got any better at that balance thing yet? :wink:


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