Death Valley Riding Condition

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by 2on2off, Dec 18, 2009.

  1. petzi-baer

    petzi-baer Been here awhile

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    Sunny, clear and cold. Getting ready for the ride to Death Valley. Need to do some shopping first - forgot warm underwear.

    Petzi-baer
  2. LeDakaR!

    LeDakaR! Banned

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    just got back home, its the coldest ive been in DV day and night.
    pack accordingly.
  3. 2on2off

    2on2off Head'n somewhere new

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    You have already gotten some good advice. Be sure to read all of Larryboy's ride reports on Death Valley. It will take some time but it is well worth it. I have a few reports on Death Valley as well.

    The Tom Harrison Map is very good. I also plan all my DV rides with Garmin's Map Source GPS software and then load my routes into my Garmin Zumo 550. Creating routes before I leave have made my rides to DV very enjoyable.

    If you have any questions, post them here and you will get lots of helpful advice from the inmates on advrider who have spent many days in DV.

    Enjoy.
  4. petzi-baer

    petzi-baer Been here awhile

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    I got back yesterday. I was kinda cold - everybody I met was complaining about it. In the valley it barely got to 60. As soon as you gained some elevation, it was freezing.

    I stayed at the Furnace Creek Campsite, which is pretty nice. When I came in around noon on the 31st there were only a few tent sites available with reserved signs all over the place. But after ( 1st and 2nd) that there was plenty of space.

    DId ride through Titus canyon which is lovely

    Went back home through Wildrose, which had a tiny bit of ice at the top of the rough section.

    petzi-baer
  5. LeDakaR!

    LeDakaR! Banned

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    Doesn't show lippencott and that fucked me up because it shows hunter and my dumbass got them confused
  6. itsatdm

    itsatdm Long timer

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    On some maps, it shows as Ubehebe rd.
  7. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    or Ubehebe Lead Mine Road.
  8. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    This is my favorite map of Death Valley, short of the actual Nat Geo paper one. http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/upload/Backcountry Roads-2.pdf

    It shows Lippencott and lots of other trails. I keep it in my iPhone and iPad for easy reference (note: it won't display using the Adobe PDF reader; you'll need something like GoodReader for it).

    Rob
  9. rockydrxrvr

    rockydrxrvr Multi Meter Meathead

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    Well, as I am a full time rv person,....somewhat homeless dualsport snowbird dweller,....was there in your view plenty of space for a 25 foot trailer and truck at the furnace creek camp ground? I plan to stay in D.V. 2 weeks, and meet up with one or two of you inmates for a all day loop.-----in about ten days. I ride a DR 650 and am a experienced, senior, rider (slower now?) but am relentless in getting it done.
  10. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Always nice to meet another fulltime RVer!! I'm up here in Oregon too, but not retired or anything (working for the state in downtown Salem)... live fulltime in a 5th wheel Toyhauler. It's made the trip to DV a couple of times. Would love to head down there but fuel costs just too high right now. :)

    Also on a DR650. When you get back up here, PM me if you want some ride company.

    Rob
  11. petzi-baer

    petzi-baer Been here awhile

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    There was plenty of space in the RV section when I left, but I am not sure of their RV size limits. As I said it was full on New Years Eve. Getting up early and staying warm is the trick. As soon as I hit 3-4000 ft it was around 40F. And it got dark pretty quick.

    Petzi-baer
  12. rockydrxrvr

    rockydrxrvr Multi Meter Meathead

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    Just retired, but job liked my dependablity, I gave my position with bennies up. So boss negoiated with me to try to put in another year as Summer Relief Only as a win/win for the firm and this driver, Somewhat twisted, but I have winters off now, only to comeback for a job in the summer. (1st year)
    I have to budget $1,000 each year for fuel cost alone just to do the D.V. and AZ. thing yearly. Sold my house, furniture, posessions and v-strom are gone. (My return parking and living is worked out.)
    A used Ford 7.3 diesel, and an 'Outback' toyhauler, both came to $22k, so let's give it a shot..... grab a few more bargain brass rings.

    Death Valley brings looks of furrowed eyebrows and questions of my sanity to dual sport ride alone in the American Outback, but if you have the attraction to the lonesome places, vistas forever, and adventure spirit to keep a Senior Rider
    on the foot pegs, you understand. (Ah,....that Sargent Seat and Heated Grips make us Smile.) And if my laptop works at Furnace Creek, I will Number One, first try to partner up with a fellow rider.

    Yep, when back up north not working in the summer let's meet for a half way ADV. loop.
  13. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    Here, here. :beer


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  14. Lost Roadie

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    Thanks Rob, thats just great!

    I downloaded it and then emailed it to myself, saved and opened in iBooks on my iPad mini. It displays fine with just iOS6.
    The Mini fits in the map window in my tank bag, this is perfect for looking around a map without having to get out a paper map.

    I have no excuse for being lost, as much as I try to get LOST. :freaky
  15. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Awesome!! That validates my plan to get a Mini when the next-gen one comes out. :)

    Rob
  16. spafxer

    spafxer Long timer

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    I was just in Furnace Creek and found the WiFi is no longer FREE :cry Gotta do the stupid credit card thing for it now... Unless you get the password from someone in a room. That may be included in the room rate.

    On the other hand, the WiFi in Panamint Springs worked better than it has in a long time for me! They also had some firewood in the store... $$ for it though.

    Panamint is plumbing in a water stream and pond system in the campground. The idea is to provide more water for the vegetation and they have plenty of overflow from the Darwin water fall ...
  17. Rob.G

    Rob.G Mostly Harmless

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    Glad to see him doing some improvements! I do wish it was realistic to get a (much) faster 'net connection there. Such a neat place though.

    Rob
  18. Sliverpicker

    Sliverpicker Been here awhile

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    I`m reading all these post`s about the area and --thats it---I`m loading up for the next few days and headed south !

    Got the bike broke-in , gear is in order with attitude is in place.

    Would be good to hook up with another Northwet rider to share the expense`s . It`s freaking cold up here right now at 37 degrees and raining -so DV sounds ----well let`s just say ----Nice !

    Got the hauler -----------Thinkin about arriving early for the gathering at the Death Valley daze ! Stay duration is not limited.

    Options are open for a road trip
  19. Lost Roadie

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    It's going to be 37º in Furnace Creek tonight, one of the warmest places in DV, though it's not raining. Don't leave your warm clothes at home thinking you're going to the hottest place on earth or something... :evil

    Might see you there.

    Cheers

    Finn
  20. 2on2off

    2on2off Head'n somewhere new

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    We have had some cold weather so far this winter in California.

    Hunter Mountain is one of the highest dirt road passes in Death Valley and it is typically closed this time of year because of snow and ice. The south slope of South Pass in the Saline Valley usually has two sections of ice about 100 yards long each. Coming up the ice is much harder than going down it.

    Steele Pass, The Escape Route (Manly Pass), Mengle Pass, Lippeicott Mine Road and Echo Pass are usually free of snow and ice all year. Pleasant Canyon, Middle Park and South Park, near Ballarat, can have snow and ice this time of year.

    Even though Death Valley is one of the hottest places in the lower 48 states, it can be very cold this time of year. Furnace Creek and the hot springs, Warm Springs in Saline Valley, are probably the warmest destinations this time of year. However, to get to the hot springs you will have to go over South Pass, 6,000 ft., or North Pass, 7,000 ft. and possibly closed because of snow, or Lippincott Mine Road to get there. South Pass, Hunter Mtn. Road and North Pass will all get snow this time of year when a storm blows in and they don't have road crews to keep any of them open this time of year.

    North Pass has been graded on an inconsistent basis during the fall and spring but I am not aware of any plowing of snow this time of year. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Here is the 10 day forecast for three of the DV areas you might ride to or from:

    Furnace Creek
    - Highs will range from 50-70 degrees.
    - Lows will range from 27-42 degrees.

    Beatty, NV
    - HIghs will range from 37-57 degrees
    - Lows will range from 18-33 degrees

    Lone Pine
    - HIghs will range from 39-59 degrees
    - Lows will range from 15-34 degrees

    Trona
    - HIghs will range from 41-62 degrees
    - Lows will range from 21-37 degrees

    It is light about 7:00 a.m. and dark about 5:00 p.m.

    The coldest time of the day is 6:00 - 7:00 a.m.
    The warmest time of the day is 2:00 - 4:00 p.m.

    Should you be riding alone and get stuck or injured this time of year, be prepared to spend one or more nights in very cold conditions.

    The storm heading to Central California this week is forecasted to drop snow down to 2,000 feet and we will see very cold nights for the next 6 days.

    I just came back from an 8 day trip north through Oregon and Washington and spent 5 days in Bellingham, WA. Loved the whole trip and got used to the constant mist in WA after about 4 days. It actually wasn't any colder in Oregon or Washington than it has been in Central California recently. The temperature variation is much different in the summer. Bellingham was alot of fun and looks like a great place to live.