Death Valley Riding Condition

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by 2on2off, Dec 18, 2009.

  1. christian

    christian Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2004
    Oddometer:
    2,672
    Location:
    Redwood City, CA
    Was there this weekend, came out through North pass at around 11am 02/19/2013
    was cold!!! this info is before yesterday's snow/rain.

    Road in general were in worse condition than 2 years ago.

    Goler Wash - was Ok.
    Mangel pass - OK

    Echo Canyon Eastbound - huge step 1/2 through, we got a 950SE through, and that was a pain - 640E was not too bad.
    Titus Canyon - easy

    Steelpass Westbound to the spring - Sand close to Eureka Dunes was super soft - might be better now with the moisture.
    downhill to the spring in the washes was much worse than 2 years ago - nothing too difficult, just tons of rock.

    Lippencott Eastbound (up) same story, way more rocks.

    Hunter mtns was no problem Monday - no sure today then.

    South pass to the spring - was fine on motorcycle, all the major wash-out have been fixed, we could see the loader's tracks and they filled with gravel. the rock on the bottom close to lippencott turnout and valley floor are bad - car can go through but it'll be a slow process.

    north pass - valley floor has more rocks/wash out than usual but stock Subaru's and such were at the spring, just slow process again.

    I'll post a few pics later.
  2. Lost Roadie

    Lost Roadie Rider

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2006
    Oddometer:
    3,593
    Location:
    On The Road
    With that new lighting you got I'll be able to see you from across the valley!

    Have a great trip, hopefully we'll see you guys out there.
  3. 2on2off

    2on2off Head'n somewhere new

    Joined:
    May 22, 2007
    Oddometer:
    1,402
    Location:
    Central California
    Anyone ridden near Gold Point N/W of Scotties Castle? It is near 6,000 ft and was wondering if the dirt road between highway 267 and Gold Point has any snow or ice.

    That is a fun dirt road that goes past the Hard Luck Mine Castle. Want to ride it the next trip out.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
  4. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

    Joined:
    May 8, 2002
    Oddometer:
    6,769
    Location:
    San Fernando Valley
    I hope so.
  5. jckid

    jckid Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2009
    Oddometer:
    384
    Location:
    CA
    Anyone know if it snowed in Butte Valley below Mengel Pass? I'm guessing not, but did see the previous comment about snow around 4,000 ft.

    Also, does anyone know the current condition of Trail Canyon? The DVNP website says "washed out", but doesn't provide further details.
  6. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

    Joined:
    May 8, 2002
    Oddometer:
    6,769
    Location:
    San Fernando Valley
    I'll know about Golar/Mengel after this weekend.
  7. pcvance

    pcvance Walk Verplank

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2010
    Oddometer:
    5,855
    Location:
    Sequoia Country

    Golar is a freeway after the grader came through...The NPS ruined it.
  8. pcvance

    pcvance Walk Verplank

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2010
    Oddometer:
    5,855
    Location:
    Sequoia Country

    Trail Canyon is a rocky wash, fun on a small bike.1-25-2013
    [​IMG]
  9. loner

    loner explorer

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2007
    Oddometer:
    319
    Location:
    Parts Unknown, Kalifornia
    Butte Valley generally only gets snow in the hills, not on the desert floor. I doubt that the approach to Mengel Pass would have any snow.

    Trail Canyon got hammered after last years major storm. If you haven't rode it before you may have a hard time even recognizing the road. A jeeper friend went up it recently to try to lay down new tracks. The wash out begins after mile 6, look for rock cairns to follow the road. You can make it to the mining camps if you're determined.
  10. traveltoad

    traveltoad Aaron S

    Joined:
    May 8, 2002
    Oddometer:
    6,769
    Location:
    San Fernando Valley
    So I heard... maybe I will get lucky and find snow.
  11. chrish4ku

    chrish4ku Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2009
    Oddometer:
    943
    Location:
    San Leandro, CA

    Gotta go back to Hard Luck Mine..

    Before I realized the KTM 990 is the best.

    <a href="http://chrish4ku.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Big-Pine-2010/19866283_9hW46z#!i=1562834235&k=pd85MWm&lb=1&s=A" title="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug"><img src="http://chrish4ku.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Big-Pine-2010/i-pd85MWm/0/L/P1040177-L.jpg" title="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug" alt="Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug"></a>
  12. 2on2off

    2on2off Head'n somewhere new

    Joined:
    May 22, 2007
    Oddometer:
    1,402
    Location:
    Central California
    That is what Steele Pass looks like for the first 10 miles heading north from Warm Springs Hot Tubs as of last October.

    I'd like to see some pics of what it looks like now. There were many parts where no trail was visible at all.
  13. christian

    christian Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2004
    Oddometer:
    2,672
    Location:
    Redwood City, CA
    As of last Sunday - it looks the same... trail is more visible but rock and washes are the same.
  14. christian

    christian Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2004
    Oddometer:
    2,672
    Location:
    Redwood City, CA
    As of 2/18/2013

    Echo Canyon "step"
    [​IMG]

    Steelpass road close to eureka dunes - Soft sand... really soft.
    [​IMG]

    South pass, biggest wash out were fixed - still lots of washboard and rock but nothing "technical" as such
    [​IMG]
  15. Countdown

    Countdown Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,796
    Location:
    Carson City/Ridgecrest
    Christian, you should have come on my ride, much less work and fun single tracks.
  16. christian

    christian Long timer

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2004
    Oddometer:
    2,672
    Location:
    Redwood City, CA
    Others on the ride preferred to do our own camping trip.
    Different adventures... one day
  17. 2on2off

    2on2off Head'n somewhere new

    Joined:
    May 22, 2007
    Oddometer:
    1,402
    Location:
    Central California
    Thanks for the updates. Echo steps are a challenge for me going up or down. It is one of those sections where you just have to commit and go for it which is easier said than done. Hesitation is the enemy.
  18. 2on2off

    2on2off Head'n somewhere new

    Joined:
    May 22, 2007
    Oddometer:
    1,402
    Location:
    Central California
    Where did you ride? Is there a ride report you can point us to? Thanks.
  19. Ironwood

    Ironwood Friday Harbor, WA

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Oddometer:
    866
    We are coming down on the first of March. Does anyone know the condition of the roads into Cerro Gordo? We will lileky hit it from Lee flat.
  20. 2on2off

    2on2off Head'n somewhere new

    Joined:
    May 22, 2007
    Oddometer:
    1,402
    Location:
    Central California
    Robert is the caretaker that lives in Cerro Gordo. He is the only one who lives there. You can call him for current road conditions at: 760-876-5030.

    Call ahead and let him know when you plan to be there and he will give you a personal tour of the town. If you get a tour, be sure to buy a T-Shirt there to support the effort to keep the place open to riders like us.

    Cerro Gordo is at about 8,000 ft so there can be snow and ice on the road especially right after a storm. This time of year it should melt quickly so conditions change depending on the weather.

    Robert
    [​IMG]

    Cerro Gordo
    [​IMG]