Delorme inReach SE Satellite Communicator

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by arch3, Apr 27, 2013.

  1. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I used the RAM mount for my inReach for Smartphone and it needed no modification to accept the 12vdc Power Adapter.
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  2. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I had some time to check out the new SE today. Here are a few of my reasons for "upgrading" to the SE over the Smartphone edition:

    1. You can select the Tracking interval on the unit - no need to take out the iPhone/iPad to set it.
    2. On the SE you can "pull" your messages where on the Smartphone edition you had to wait for an update (up to 20min) or turn the unit off and back on.

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    3. Easy selction of Preset Messages - although they still don't allow you to give each message a Name that can be Sync'ed with the the inReach SE. Hopefully when "Sync" is enabled from the inReach Explore website you will have this option. From the inReach SE site: Once the sync function is ready, inReach SE will display the full message text and recipients.

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    4. I tested out the "Keyboard" input and it's just like any other "predictive" Keypad on an old non-smartphone. It will store up you key words the more you use it so writing a text should become a bit quicker over time. I found it easy enough to use considering you only get 160 characters anyway.
    5. Button Lock is a welcome addition. My SE will live in my waist pack or in my Badlands Pants pocket when I'm off-roading and most likely on a bar mount when touring.

    As Moto Mikey pointed out, there are Pin Pads on the back of the SE that hopefully indicate that a Powered Mount will be forthcoming.

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    The inReach is a simple tool with easy to use features. If you're new to inReach I do recommend reading over the documentation just to familiarize yourself - then, go ride!
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  3. Hikertrash

    Hikertrash Wasted Rock Ranger

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    Do you mean that after you send a text to a friend/family member, you can push to see if you received a reply vs. having to wait the 20mins that the smartphone version waits?
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  4. Moto Mikey

    Moto Mikey Been here awhile

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    yes, it forces the device to refresh (check for messages). It checks every 20 minutes for new messages but there's the option to make it check on command.
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  5. JR356

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    Did not have tankbag with me,was just an experiment.
    If it worked in the cases,it would be a more secure way to carry expensive electronic gear.The panniers are always on the bike,the tankbag,less so.

    As I said in my post,I'm aware of signal requirements with these devices,having owned two previous SPOTS.

    What is interesting to me,is that I can get great transmission thru the aluminum plate in the tankbag and several layers of maps and the map case,but the slightly thicker aluminum and powder coating of the panniers will not allow the transmission.

    Anyone know if powder coating affects electronics transmission/reception?

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  6. JR356

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    Good news!

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  7. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    These transmissions "bounce" all around us - the are not just line-of-sight. So, just having the aluminum above the unit will not necessarily stop all RF from reaching the antenna. Putting it in a closed box will. I send test messages frequently from inside my office at home - I have a heavy tile roof and stucco walls (wire mesh inside).

    To answer your question, paint will have no effect unless it has metal powder in the paint. There are RF attenuating paints but they are expensive and don't work all that well.
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  8. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I see that DeLorme has the RAM mount kit available for Pre-order. No sign of a powered mount yet - not that you really need it given the battery life on the SE.
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  9. OneEffinName

    OneEffinName Been here awhile

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    Any of you have both and InReach and a Spot? Ever use the tracking feature with both at the same time - same trip? I am curious about "actual" effectiveness of them transmitting tracking signals.
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  10. El Gato

    El Gato Been here awhile

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    I have a Gen1 Spot that I've been using for the last several years. OK messages have generally worked OK when I'm not moving, but the tracking feature is unreliable (to be kind). I might get 3 tracking points out over a 150 mile ride if I'm riding in the Santa Cruz mountains. DeLorme just e-mailed me yesterday to indicate that my InReach SE just shipped, so I plan to do a side-by-side comparison of trh tracking capability once it arrives (and then promptly sell the POS Spot).
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  11. OneEffinName

    OneEffinName Been here awhile

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    I know the Spot II's tracking is quite improved over the Spot I, because it has a new algorithm that transmits the past three track points each time it ping the satellites. I am always impressed with how well it works in the tree cover of the PNW.

    I just wonder if Inreach has the same kind of algorithm. Or does it just wait until it gets a sat signal and transmits at that time.

    I am tempted to buy one just to see how they compare side to side.

    If I went for the Inreach SE, I would end up getting rid of my sat phone. Which means I would totally rely on text messaging. Hmmm. It half the price of the sat phone subscrption though.
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  12. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    :hmmmmm
    Well, I've done a fair amount of travel with both SPOT (I,II & Connect) and the inReach for Smartphone - just not at the same time. I chose the inReach over the SPOT(s) because they [all] lost tracking and depending upon where I was in the world, at times I couldn't get any signal through.

    I've never had a failed tracking signal with the inReach in over 20,000 miles.

    But, you want a side-by-side track plot. What will that tell you about the two devices/services?
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  13. OneEffinName

    OneEffinName Been here awhile

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    I ride 95% offroad. In a lot of bush and trees. The Spot II works pretty darn fine - which I was quite surprised since it uses Globalstar and non-confirmed messages. I am sure this is due to the SPOT II algorithm.

    At one time I did own an InReach (when they first came out). I was quite dissappointed with the tracking (and other things). It could not handle tree cover as well as the SPOT II. I am just wondering if InReach has been improved since its introduction. I would expect any updates would also be applied to the InReach SE.



    By having them both side by side on the same trip will subject them to the same test criteria (it is the basis for scientific comparison). See how many points they drop.
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  14. artimishoke

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    At work we tested the inReach (not the SE) side by side with the Spot 2. The inReach was noticeably more accurate. This was tested in open and heavily wooded terrain over a week long period on foot, in vehicles and in a plane. I have reviewed the data a few times before taking on the inReach SE testing. We were so sure of the Delorme device that we are not going to run it against the Spot 2. We will wait for the Spot 3 to drop and then might run it up against the SE.
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  15. Dirt2Oil

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    Anyone receive one of these units from GPScity yet, or did everyone who received theirs order directly from Delorme? :cry. I preordered with gpscity April 10th and still waiting.
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  16. OneEffinName

    OneEffinName Been here awhile

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    Very good! Thanks for the detailed information.

    I am struggling if I want to give up my Sat Phone & SPOT II for the Inreach SE. The per month cost of the phone/spot is about twice that of the InReach, but it sure is nice to have voice.
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  17. lm002e

    lm002e Been here awhile

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    I originally ordered from GPScity but then canceled my order when they kept pushing the delivery date back. I ended up ordering from Cabelas.com because they actually had the units in stock and I leave on a month long trip in 2 weeks. Downside: I had to pay sales tax. Upside: I received my InReach SE today. Which brings me to a question:

    So I set up the device today, set up all the stuff on the mapshare website, fired it up and went for about a 20-30 min ride. The tracking ended up just showing a straight line between where I started and where I finished. I had the interval set to 10 min. How do I make the device show a trail of breadcrumbs so friends and family can follow my tracks? Thanks

    Luke
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  18. Rally_West

    Rally_West Central Scrutinizer

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    Decrease tracking time. A 20 minute ride with 10 minute track points will only have 2 points...and two points define a line. So, you could keep 10 minute intervals and on a month ride it will not look like a straight line, or decrease the interval. NOTE: I do not own one of these, but I plan to and I hope I have this tip correct.
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  19. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    The smallest Tracking interval is 10min. But your assessment of Im002e's observation is correct. Net, go for a longer ride.
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  20. lm002e

    lm002e Been here awhile

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    This had also occurred to me but I thought I remember the SPOT device giving a more fluid track of one's route. Anybody know what the shortest interval on the spot is?
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