Denver Denizens-What's the deal with E470???

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by AdvRonski, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. AdvRonski

    AdvRonski They call me......Ronski

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    I usually try to avoid the Denver traffic Cluster-F**k, but to save time on my way home from the MB500 in Woodland Park, I just let my GPS get me home via the quickest route. When it routed me onto E470, I realized there would be some kind of toll, maybe a few bucks. But after a while I hit I76, and I don't remember any Toll Plaza, except at the exits. I just figured that through traffic got a break, until I got a letter instructing me to pay $29 or face eternal damnation.
    What did I miss?
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  2. 60wag

    60wag Been here awhile

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    E470 is a toll road and it is an expensive one. They used to have toll booths where you'd stop and pay. They found that the ez-pass no stop system was cheaper so they did away with the toll booths. The ez-pass was initially for people would wanted to use the road with an account that would auto pay. The system works well enough that they don't need you to set up an account so now everyone on the road is charged without stopping (except at some of the exits.) There are signs on the road that give info but they are easy to miss.
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  3. thump_co

    thump_co ..ouch

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    If you really want to piss someone off, borrow their car and run it back and forth a few times.
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  4. ER70S-2

    ER70S-2 Long timer

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    I think they photo your license plate and send you a bill.
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  5. Downhill Dave

    Downhill Dave Busco aventura

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    :deal Infrastructure through privatization and direct taxation of users...
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  6. surly357

    surly357 Cochetopa dreamin'

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    what surprised me was a toll for both my jeep and my trailer. at least the bike on the trailer didn't get billed too.....
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  7. Assfault

    Assfault Exposed Member

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    I'm pretty sure it is per axle, hench the additional charge for the trailer.
    This makes sense in the quest for more $, as a semi would get hit harder, as it tearing the raod up with more axle's, and more axle's mean more weight, in theory.
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  8. gfountain

    gfountain Been here awhile

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    The toll is 20% less if you have an account and a sticker. You have to deposit $35 into the account and maintain a positive balance. It may not be worth it if you don't use it often. I am on 470 only about once a month but it has worked for me. Check it out at https://www.expresstoll.com/PayingTolls/Pages/EXpressToll.aspx if you are interested.
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  9. surly357

    surly357 Cochetopa dreamin'

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    yeah, that's it. just never really thought about it until we got the bill. i couldn't figure out the second time i used e470, then my wife noticed the other plate number! :D
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  10. Coloradical

    Coloradical Long timer

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    The crappy thing is that they don't give a discount for motorcycles. I wonder if they charge a hack as a third axle.
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  11. shearboy2004

    shearboy2004 KIWIINUSA

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    I asked one of the guys that works there why the hell it is was so stupid expensive and he said they just don't want a huge volume of traffic out there , they don't want trucks and such at all.

    Small volume, huge profit, low road repairs , makes sense if you own it I guess.
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  12. Blakebird

    Blakebird Solo Backwardo

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    We live close to E-470 (couple miles south) and use it when we need to make time somewhere or want to avoid I-25 thru downtown coming home from the north. Jeanne used to use it daily on her commute into the DTC. We're close enough to I-25 to get dinged one toll, but it adds up. You can go halfway across Kansas for less money than here to Smoky Hill :bluduh :lol3

    Yeah, the 'per axle' thing is a bit usurious when you're pulling a light bike trailer behind a car.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-470

    The toll rate on E-470, roughly 31 cents per mile, is one of the highest rates of any toll road in the United States
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  13. woodmnctry

    woodmnctry Been here awhile

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    Try dragging a triple axle through that money machine --- thought it was a grand idea to save time being late as usual -- then kazam!----here's ur bill --- Holly S__ht!! Batman!!
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  14. Dusty_Bottoms

    Dusty_Bottoms Adventurer Ordinaire

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    That's the opposite of why I think they charge so much. When they first built the thing it was pretty cheap, like $7 to use the entire thing north/south but so few people use it they had to jack up the price to try and pay for it. I use it if I know Denver I-25 traffic is clustered up and it's worth the money to save an hour or two but I swear I never see more than 10 cars on it. It's going to take forever to pay for that thing. Having the express toll trigger is the cheapest way to go.
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  15. 250senuf

    250senuf Long timer

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    Sounds like it's time for some James Bond type license plate holders. Running the toll road: flip it around to display the plate numbers of your "favorite" politician. :D
    No need to thank me.:lol3
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  16. JWhitmore44

    JWhitmore44 pistolero

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    Being form "out of town" I used to use E470 a lot as it was the easy way to get were I needed to go. I didn't mind when I actually paid the person in a booth, although stopping every 5 miles to pay a toll was a bit excessive :) it still was worth the price. Last time I went through there and they went to the photo system and mailed you your toll I bet fell over for what they wanted. Glad my GPS has an option to avoid tolls.
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  17. modette

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    ^ Well that sucks...I was hoping someone could say how it works for out of state vehicles!!!! Do they still look up your information and mail you a bill, and what reciprocation do they have if a person say in CA or FL does not pay??? (yes it is cold out and I am thinking of warm places).

    The wife and I have a transponder we also get a discount per toll. Only time we use the road is to go to DIA to get people. The transponder is free, you can have up to two...they are attached to whatever vehicle you register it to, it also handles the ding to the credit card so you don't have to mess with a bill or a loss bill or worry about anything. Each month I get an email showing usage (typically says nothing).

    We usually take 83 from Monument to E470...a peaceful drive.

    Oh, they also have motorcycle transponders too. I agree if they charge the same for a bike as a car that is F'ed up. Ways around that too....

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    Of course ways to do it in a cage too...LOL

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  18. Osprey!

    Osprey! a.k.a. Opie

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    I'm glad those booths are gone. A friend was rear-ended while stopped at one of those booths by a drunk driver. He's now blind in one eye. Used to be a avid hunter, too. :cry
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  19. Tinker Belle

    Tinker Belle Wandering Soul

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    I'd say it's working. Every time I use that road to get to DIA in a hurry it's a ghost road. Expensive yes, but something about having a stretch of high speed road almost all to yourself just about makes it worth it. Now if they just ditched the speed limits and gave Denver a pay to drive race course.... :D
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  20. JWhitmore44

    JWhitmore44 pistolero

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    I was quite surprised when I received the notification in the mail as I had been through there before and never received one. They threaten to sick the debt collectors on you if you don't pay up. Figured with my luck I would get pulled over for a speeding ticket on the next trip and would have to "go down town" :)
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