Desert beater

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by Samtech79, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    Sooooo.... I'm kinda intriged with the Royal Crapshoot Himalayan. It's got an atheistic that does it for me. Little old school mixed in with a big fat helping of chutney.
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    But even if I could get one, I wouldn't as RE's are giant gutless POS.
    Yes, I'm knocking RE. If you have one and love it, that's great. I'm happy for you and hope that you never fall out of love with it...but I still think they suck ass, a lot of chutney filled ass.
    However, I admit that the Himalayan is a looker and I hope they do well.
    But.... I can do it better. A lot better and on the cheap with crap nobody wants.
    Sooo... this POS 91 DR650 showed up at my shop months ago and we've all been eyeballing it thinking of what sort of monstrosity we could build but pretty much everyone lost interest in it.
    Cuz it's ugly. Really, really ugly. Not to mention there's monster back fees due on it.
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    And then I recalled a thread on here from years back where some metal minded butcher stuffed a GS500E into a early DR and it all seemed to jive pretty well.
    It's an air cooled, marvelously simple, tough little motor and the proportions are about right for hackage. 89-00 there's no smog crap on it.
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    So why not jig up the DR frame (Locate the important shit), turn up a bargain GS500 and gut it. Build an entirely new frame and do it as a special construction?
    Yup, why the fuck not.
    Metal fenders, GS450E tank (4g) nice looking.
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    21/17 wheels. I can probably pull this off at around 375lbs'ish with 50 odd Hp.
    I think it'll be a fine beater for when my friends wet themselves wanting to go with me on an adventure and can't or won't man up and buy their own dual sport/Adventure bike.
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  2. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    MotoPolo So many places, so little time

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    Sam - your at it again - super. As much as I love your bike creations, I think the colorful build dialog is even better!!

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    mentolio Adventurer

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    Watching and waiting...
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  5. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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  6. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    Well... building building skills requires lots of building... and failures.
    Let's put it this way, you just need to break a lot of shit before you can build anything really well.
    This is the first "build" I did. A 28cc weedeacker direct drive to a junk pile BMX bike. I think I was about thirteen. It sucked as bad as it was fun.
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    As for the toenails, I hear the secret is to chew them.
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  7. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Jack Skellington on a Pocketbike.

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    I kept the pedals and both brakes on mine..[​IMG]
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  8. sonic reducer

    sonic reducer Been here awhile

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    is there any way around the back fees? something to do with the non-op or lack thereof right?
    custom frame with the GS500 neck and numbers?
    decent motors for sure. no radiators definitely makes things a little easier.
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  9. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    I was going to build a new frame and register it as a special construction.
    The GS is probably going to be a running, registered Craigslist special.
    As for the DR the frame and engine is never gonna see the road again. Bill of sale is all I'll need to show a history of ownership which should appease the CHP.
    The deal with special construction is that you have to prove a chain of ownership for the main components to the CHP... at least in California. Engine/transmission, chassis (receipts for the metal if you build it), suspension, etc.
    It's a royal time vampire pain in the ass to do. The last time I did one it took a full year of going back and forth between the DMV and CHP, waiting for appointments, calling office after office and finally buying a bond before they issued me a title and registration.
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  10. DRjoe

    DRjoe Long timer

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    One day I shall finish that bike but for now my business is taking up all funds and time.
    I've learnt a lot since I started that project to hopefully I'll be able to finish it of nicely.

    Excited to see what you come up with, after the initial frame mods I did I decided to build my own frame but scratched that idea when I found out how much it would cost to register.
    I'm
    Back to using a dr650 frame again
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  11. Salsa

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    I bought a 1975 XL175 bike for $50 and cut the head crown off and did some safety improvements from there on back. It is officially still a XL175 because he head crown says so.

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  12. rally roo

    rally roo Total poser

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    Sounds like bureaucracy is sapping fun from the build... if you don't mind running green plates, it's super easy to register vehicles in VT as an out-of-state resident. It would require a VIN check, but any law enforcement agency near you can fill out and notarize that form. PM me if you need a fixer!

    Looks like a fun build; can't wait to see the end product!
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  13. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    I lived in South Dakota in my youth... They will title just about anything through the mail.
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  14. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    Now this piece of shit is ugly... I've drug home some basket cases before but this one takes the cake.
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    But... there's some good stuff here and some other good attributes.

    Cush drive hub!
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    Decent looking front hub and it looks like it's got low fender mounts built in!
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    Rubber mounted pegs and bars.
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    Some may not like that but for vibration isolation and long hauls it's pretty rad.
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  15. snake89

    snake89 Been here awhile

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    Gotta little something in the works myself. XL600 with tank.jpg
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  16. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    Oohhh. The four valve head. Nice.
    600 or a swap out of something else?

    Now most of the parts I intend to use are super crusty... swing arm is a good example.
    But look how wide this sucker is? It's massive! A 140-17 will fit easy.
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    I'm junking the frame and a lot of the other parts but here's where the lowly 91 DR650 starts to look like it makes since.
    Although the frame is going away, the new frame will have all the important bits located in the same place. The swing arm pivot, linkage pivot, head tube, etc... and look where the upper shock mount is.
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    I mean could you ask for a better place if you had to stuff two carbs and an airbox in there?
    My plan is to mount the GS500 as far back as the other peripherals will allow and just high enough to get the counter sprocket located appropriately.
    Relace the wheels as 21-2.15 and 17-3.50 so I can mount good mile eaters and have a nice selection of knobbies. Avon TR53's for road trips, E09's or T53's for desert abuse. As those are my current favorites.
    Maybe some low sweep flat track bars as I like the aesthetic but I'm not sure I can stand the ergonomics of them.
    Big metal fenders, low fender in the front with an extra beak like the RE. Wide metal fender out back keeping it high and tight like the RE.
    Big round headlight frame mounted with a smallish windshield and tubular sorta fairing/crash bar bits on the sides like the RE but double as rotopac mounts.
    And check out this RE seat.

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    Granted I'll probably have to make one or buy it from India but isn't that wild?
    Should go good with the GS
    450 tank.


    Now to score a cheap/free running GS500...
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  17. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    Mahahahaaa (evil laugh)! Me thinks there's a crusty basket case in my near future.
    Kid in Berkeley has a major league beater I'm trying to line up. Just checking up on Z'e paperverks!
    ... poor bike has no idea what's coming... :lobby
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  18. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    Check out this steaming pile of shit!
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    Complete with some bent ass bars.
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    I asked the previous owner and he claims the he don't know... yeah... sure... you don't remember dumping it and sliding down the road?
    Oh well, dirt cheap with papers so it's all good.
    Motor is a real POS, surprised it runs at all with 65lbs of compression. Since I was gonna give it the full treatment anyway I really don't give a single fuck.
    I'm going to jig up the old DR frame in a few weeks (got real life to deal with) and start stripping down the GS. Looks like it's going to be pretty straight forward as far as preserving the frame geometry.
    Think I'm going to keep GS headtube and lower perimeter... hell, I might whack the DR in half and keep the top tube and side... dunno. When I get the GS 450 tank and RE seat I'll have a better idea of what needs to happen.
    Looks like a winner to me!
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    Anyone need any GS500 parts? Wheels, tank, brakes, forks, etc will all end up on eBay so if you want ADV homie discount bows the time.
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    tHEtREV Encouragement award recipient. tEAM iDIOT.

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    What about the 'bars, you willing to part with them?:lol3
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  20. Samtech79

    Samtech79 Two wheeled lunatic

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    Tell ya what. $50 and I'll even bend the other side and rattle can them flat black. All your Cafe racer buddies at Starbucks will literally line up to suck your... or I can just toss'em out. I'm mean if you don't like blow jobs...
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